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ridiculous preflop calls happen in the high limits too

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  1. totimer totimer is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 1:02pm)

    couldnt believe this hand there was a min raise and i 4x it and he called this was the result

    pokerstars Game #8438248173: Tournament #42679585, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/02/14 - 13:20:00 (ET)
    Table '42679585 17' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: romy99 (1390 in chips)
    Seat 2: skrabe (900 in chips)
    Seat 3: Pic6King (1805 in chips)
    Seat 4: xtotimerx (1475 in chips)
    Seat 5: IchLiebeDich (1580 in chips)
    Seat 6: MxWILLAY (1350 in chips)
    Seat 7: TheWeak (2920 in chips)
    Seat 8: BrunoCarrico (1075 in chips)
    Seat 9: emandero (2345 in chips)
    MxWILLAY: posts small blind 15
    TheWeak: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to xtotimerx [Ks Ac]
    BrunoCarrico: folds
    emandero: folds
    romy99: folds
    skrabe: folds
    Pic6King: raises 30 to 60
    xtotimerx: raises 180 to 240
    IchLiebeDich: calls 240
    MxWILLAY: folds
    TheWeak: folds
    Pic6King: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qh Kh 9c]
    xtotimerx: bets 240
    IchLiebeDich: raises 1100 to 1340 and is all-in
    xtotimerx: calls 995 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [Qh Kh 9c] [4s]
    xtotimerx said, "yuk"
    *** RIVER *** [Qh Kh 9c 4s] [7h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    xtotimerx: shows [Ks Ac] (a pair of Kings)
    IchLiebeDich: shows [Td Jh] (a straight, Nine to King)
    Pic6King said, "tx folded kq"
    IchLiebeDich collected 3055 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3055 | Rake 0
    Board [Qh Kh 9c 4s 7h]
    Seat 1: romy99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: skrabe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Pic6King folded before Flop
    Seat 4: xtotimerx showed [Ks Ac] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 5: IchLiebeDich (button) showed [Td Jh] and won (3055) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 6: MxWILLAY (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: TheWeak (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: BrunoCarrico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: emandero folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    i like how the one guy commented he folded kq
    i still get a kick out of the min raise he put in

    i see dumber plays executed up here than at the 20s

    my favourite is the utg min raise with low pp
    i use to be afraid of it but now you repop him and he folds almost 80 percent of the time

    if they call and miss great ill outplay them if they hit im not paying them off since i probably wont have anything
  2. Hosehound25 Hosehound25 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 1:30pm) in reply to totimer

    It is a bad call but I think you have to lay it down. That's a real dangerous flop. Some people are maniacs and you might have the best hand, but I would wait and get my money in the pot in a better spot. Especially considering you are so early in the tournament.
  3. totimer totimer is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 2:52pm) in reply to Hosehound25

    yah in hindsight i could have thought about it more and layed it down

    but the problem was i put out a bait bet their to induce a bluff and was hoping he thought i missed the flop

    so i decided ahead of time i was going all the way with it

    mainly c uz i ruled out j10 and kq as being in his range

    but now its noted incase i face him again
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  4. Cortz Cortz is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 6:26pm) in reply to totimer

    i know he played his hand like an idiot...but what is ak ahead of on that flop?
  5. parsifals parsifals is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 9:19pm) in reply to Cortz

    what is AK ahead of?

    JJ, TT, KJ, 88, 77, etc.

    if he's the type of guy who makes a min raise then calls a substantial reraise with JT, how could those hands NOT be in his range here?

    it's tough to determine you're behind on this flop after he flat calls the big reraise preflop, that looks like jacks or tens to me.... the betting pattern alone gives me the impression he has AA or AK, too...
  6. Cortz Cortz is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2007 (2/14/2007 9:37pm) in reply to parsifals

    i dont think 88 or 77 is in his range...AYBE KJ but looks like kq/99 to me or even same hand
  7. DexterCain DexterCain is offline

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    Feb 15th, 2007 (2/15/2007 8:41am) in reply to Cortz

    KJ is the only hand you're really beating, and he's morelikely to have 10-9, J9 of hearts or some other combo draw than he is tohave 77 or 88. Everything else has you crushed. gotta fold to his push I think.
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