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Right to call or just spewy?

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  1. mozzer mozzer is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 4:39pm)

    Playing in the $20 6-Handed on stars. Situation is the bubble broke about 5 hands ago, my stack size is about twice the average (around 11th place out of 48). Here's the hand history:

    pokerstars Game #35270169068: Tournament #210666050, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (500/1000) - 2009/11/12 16:52:29 ET
    Table '210666050 53' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: xxgertxx (10411 in chips)
    Seat 2: arnaud18 (62092 in chips)
    Seat 3: mozzer2001 (42767 in chips)
    Seat 4: bfitz84 (27874 in chips)
    Seat 5: GD_Belthazor (28674 in chips)
    Seat 6: since1879 (11499 in chips)
    xxgertxx: posts the ante 125
    arnaud18: posts the ante 125
    mozzer2001: posts the ante 125
    bfitz84: posts the ante 125
    GD_Belthazor: posts the ante 125
    since1879: posts the ante 125
    arnaud18: posts small blind 500
    mozzer2001: posts big blind 1000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mozzer2001 [Qc Qh]
    bfitz84: folds
    GD_Belthazor: folds
    since1879: raises 10374 to 11374 and is all-in
    xxgertxx: folds
    arnaud18: raises 50593 to 61967 and is all-in
    mozzer2001: ????
    The shove looked like he was trying to isolate, and I put him on TT+ or AK. Is this an instacall, or just a spew, being so deep?

    I've been mincashing a lot lately, and really wanted a chance to chip up and make the final table here. Does the range I assigned make any sense? Not much info on him except that he was the big stack at the table.

    Thanks for the responses.
  2. Cogdiesel Cogdiesel is offline Banned

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 4:48pm) in reply to mozzer

    I like your range on him considering he is isolating. However, I think you can afford to find a better spot IMO. I fold here and continue playing. I understand wanting to chip up, but can't you find spots to do that against the other 4 players at the table that don't have you covered.
  3. Brain Damage Brain Damage is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 5:21pm) in reply to mozzer

    My chips are going in so fast. 40 bb isn't THAT deep. Also i think you can throw 8s, 9s, and AQ into his range. let me guess you raced for 80bb?
     
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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 5:59pm) in reply to Brain Damage

    dont fold
  5. CayneB CayneB is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 6:04pm) in reply to mozzer

    Right to call, imo.
  6. Sdanby Sdanby is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 6:06pm) in reply to mozzer

    callllllllllllllllllllllll, out of interest what would your iso range of the shover be? would you be shoving 8's 9's AQ??
  7. Freewill1978 Freewill1978 is offline

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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 6:08pm) in reply to mozzer

    Please don't ever fold QQ with 40 blinds on a 6-max table. Thank you.
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    Nov 12th, 2009 (11/12/2009 6:14pm) in reply to Freewill1978

    Never spewey lol
  9. mozzer mozzer is offline

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 9:24am) in reply to rainmanrcp

    Thanks guys. Appreciate the backup. I obv called, and dude had AA. I don't know that I would put AQ or 88/99 in his range...as he could easily have just called the initial shovers bet there.
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  10. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 11:37am) in reply to mozzer

    I like the shove too. QQ is just way too big a hand to throw away here. Cooler that he has 1 of 2 hands that have you crushed.
  11. yardle yardle is offline

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 11:59am) in reply to lordxixor101

    if you're folding spots like this, that could be a big reason for your recent min cashes. what i mean by that is you need to continue to taking big risks as this point in the tournament. you're still a ways out from the real money (top 3 places) and folding monster hands for monster pots isn't going to get you there.

    if we're on the final table and risking this many blinds, depending on the other stack sizes, we can talk about folding a spot like this.
  12. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 1:17pm) in reply to yardle

    I'm NEVER folding! NEVER!! I'm calling and I'm excited about it!
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  13. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 1:18pm) in reply to yardle

    I'm never folding! NEVER! I'm calling and I'm excited about it!
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  14. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 1:20pm) in reply to yardle

    I'm never folding! NEVER! I'm calling and I'm excited about it!
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  15. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 1:21pm) in reply to yardle

    I'm never folding! NEVER! I'm calling and I'm excited about it!
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  16. agilles agilles is offline

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 4:22pm) in reply to ApesAreFun

     
    Originally Posted by ApesAreFun View Post

    I'm never folding! NEVER! I'm calling and I'm excited about it!

  17. random.chu random.chu is offline The People's Troll

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    Nov 13th, 2009 (11/13/2009 10:57pm) in reply to agilles

    obv apes was fairly excited.
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