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Was this the right play or did I stack off? Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game

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  1. southpaw510 southpaw510 is offline

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    Apr 23rd, 2008 (4/23/2008 11:56pm)

    pokerstars Game #16950258837: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/23 - 22:44:03 (ET)
    Table 'Isabella IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: ($71.30 in chips)
    Seat 2: ($70.05 in chips)
    Seat 3: ($55.80 in chips)
    Seat 4: ($51.70 in chips)
    Seat 5: ($11.30 in chips)
    Seat 6: southpaw510 ($34.20 in chips)
    Seat 1: posts small blind $0.25

    Seat 2: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to southpaw510 [5d 9h 6h 2d]
    Seat 3: folds
    Seat 4: folds
    Seat 5: folds
    southpaw510: raises $1.25 to $1.75
    Seat 1: folds
    Seat 2: raises $3.75 to $5.50
    southpaw510: calls $3.75
    *** FLOP *** [8s 4d 3d]
    Seat 2: bets $10.70

    Ok so I made a raise in an unraised pot from the button and Seat 2 reraised me. I had position on him and a nice drawing hand so I made the call. The texture of the flop was perfect for me. the Bet Re-raise and here is the spot where I am debating over.

    Basically my thought process at this point is either raise the pot and commit the rest of my stack to this hand or fold. Based on my opinion of Seat 2, he plays position really well but gets into Big Pots with Questionable hands. I put him on a Big Pair because I have never seen him re-raise without one and I figure he also has my flush beat. I have a wrap around straight with any 7-6-5-2-A giving me a straight. So thats basically 14 outs to make my hand. (the 6 and A of diamonds gives me a straight flush). It was an interesting hand that I basically took all of my timebank to decide what to do. So based on my read im figuring a hand like AxAdXdXx. What do you think?
  2. DexterCain DexterCain is offline

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    Apr 23rd, 2008 (4/23/2008 11:58pm) in reply to southpaw510

    imo, once you see the flop, anything other than getting it all in seems pretty bad.

    edit: "nice drawing hand" is a bit of a stretch tho imo
  3. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 24th, 2008 (4/24/2008 12:06am) in reply to southpaw510

    Words cannot describe how much I dislike the preflop play. I don't like stealing blinds in a cash game (what's the point?) and I'm not sure calling the re-raise is good either (not terrible, because you're in position, but you're not gonna hit enough flops hard enough to make this worthwhile, IMO). Once you see the flop, though, I think your analysis of how many outs you have is accurate, and you get your money in the pot.
     
  4. southpaw510 southpaw510 is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2008 (4/24/2008 12:14am) in reply to grapsfan

    Thanks guys. I tried to hide the results but I was a bonehead (I think this is my first opening post, made some replys to posts before though), so I hope you guys dont make a decision based on the results.
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  5. Rollover2k Rollover2k is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2008 (4/24/2008 12:28am) in reply to southpaw510

    This is a very standard spot, you are well in front of his range here and almost never dominated by what is the top end of his range overpair plus flush draw.

    You'll want to spend sometime looking at equities on propokertools it seems to me that you don't have a great understanding of equity verse aces situations which is by and large the most important situation you need to know in omaha (at least in current status of games).

    Also take note of what some others said about the value of this hand, realistically it is pretty bad. I will open hands like this in the cutoff or button when the game is playing passively. But this hand really is almost never drawing to the nuts on any flop, so unless you crush it and are in a game where people are playing tight oop this is a really trashy hand.

    That said if you are raising it, certainly call reraise, it will actually play much better in a 3-bet pot than a standard raised pot because your draws will be good much more often and the trashy two pair handss you make or skanky trips will be easily feltable.
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  6. jus2awsum jus2awsum is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2008 (4/24/2008 12:56am) in reply to southpaw510

    shove all day. you shouldn't fold mega wrap flush draws. you are like 75 percent against a naked aa and 50/50 against adxd.

    folding here is so bad it's not even funny.
     
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