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River decision .5/1

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  1. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:16pm)

    Villain is a complete donk has been shoving his stack into $20 pots and is playing 44/7. So folding is not an option here, do you raise for value here or just call?
    pokerstars Game #11542470443: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/17 - 19:03:51 (ET)
    Table 'Doris II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Boojaq ($120.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: Wasserwerk ($153.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: shiptosails ($99.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Coolscorpion ($83 in chips)
    Seat 5: ALISSAR ($33.90 in chips)
    Seat 6: Admin_Steve ($67.20 in chips)
    Wasserwerk: posts small blind $0.50
    shiptosails: posts big blind $1
    ALISSAR: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to shiptosails [7d As]
    Coolscorpion: folds
    ALISSAR: checks
    Admin_Steve: calls $1
    Boojaq: folds
    Wasserwerk: calls $0.50
    shiptosails: checks
    *** FLOP *** [7c 4s 2h]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $3
    ALISSAR: folds
    Admin_Steve: folds
    Wasserwerk: calls $3
    *** TURN *** [7c 4s 2h] [Ah]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $7
    Wasserwerk: calls $7
    *** RIVER *** [7c 4s 2h Ah] [Kd]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $17.50
    Wasserwerk: raises $17.50 to $35
    shiptosails:
     
  2. jeffboski jeffboski is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:17pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    my guess is that you raised
     
  3. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:19pm) in reply to jeffboski

    oops didnt mean to post that, despite what I did what would u do?
     
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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:20pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    unraised pot just call it
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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:21pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    theres no way you should reraise the river. the only hands that call you are ones that beat you. i think you overplayed this hand, even considering the fact that your opponent is "a complete donk" which opponents are lol.. anyway, bet less on river and then decide to call if he raises, but DEF do not rereraise.. no value
     
  6. kmil420 kmil420 is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:25pm) in reply to AceWPT

    what do you guys make of the check raise on the river?
  7. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:26pm) in reply to AceWPT

    This guy is going to be calling me very lightly shouldn't I get max value on the river with a bigger bet? I dont see how im overplaying my hand here considering probably the only thing that beats me is a set. I agree also that against 99% of players I am just calling but this guy will play top pair like the nuts.
     
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  8. pariah pariah is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:28pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    44/7 is almost meaningless since he's SB, I mean his range is huge there for a winning player and ATC for him. All it really means is I think we can exclude AA,KK,AK. What's his AF, that should help more... river check-raise is pretty strong regardless who you are.
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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:30pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    By reraising all in, you are definitely not getting value on the hands that call you. doh
     
  10. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:31pm) in reply to pariah

    his agression factor is .5

    edit: after looking back at this stat I prefer a call now.
     
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  11. RedHazerz RedHazerz is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:37pm) in reply to AceWPT

    lolz at running into a flush on that board

    Id just call the river
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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:43pm) in reply to Shiptothesails

    sheeeeet there's no way shoving a .5 player can be +EV.
  13. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Aug 17th, 2007 (8/17/2007 7:47pm) in reply to pariah

    Okay yea call is definately best here, I tried a really wierd line here and mini reraised him trying to induce a bluff shove which looking back was a pretty terrible line against a .5 agression factor.

    pokerstars Game #11542470443: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/17 - 19:03:51 (ET)
    Table 'Doris II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Boojaq ($120.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: Wasserwerk ($153.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: shiptosails ($99.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Coolscorpion ($83 in chips)
    Seat 5: ALISSAR ($33.90 in chips)
    Seat 6: Admin_Steve ($67.20 in chips)
    Wasserwerk: posts small blind $0.50
    shiptosails: posts big blind $1
    ALISSAR: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to shiptosails [7d As]
    Coolscorpion: folds
    ALISSAR: checks
    Admin_Steve: calls $1
    Boojaq: folds
    Wasserwerk: calls $0.50
    shiptosails: checks
    *** FLOP *** [7c 4s 2h]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $3
    ALISSAR: folds
    Admin_Steve: folds
    Wasserwerk: calls $3
    *** TURN *** [7c 4s 2h] [Ah]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $7
    Wasserwerk: calls $7
    *** RIVER *** [7c 4s 2h Ah] [Kd]
    Wasserwerk: checks
    shiptosails: bets $17.50
    Wasserwerk: raises $17.50 to $35
    shiptosails: raises $17.50 to $52.50
    Wasserwerk: raises $17.50 to $70
    shiptosails: calls $17.50
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Wasserwerk: shows [8s 4c] (a pair of Fours)
    shiptosails: shows [7d As] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
    shiptosails collected $161 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $164 | Rake $3
    Board [7c 4s 2h Ah Kd]
    Seat 1: Boojaq (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Wasserwerk (small blind) showed [8s 4c] and lost with a pair of Fours
    Seat 3: shiptosails (big blind) showed [7d As] and won ($161) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
    Seat 4: Coolscorpion folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: ALISSAR folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Admin_Steve folded on the Flop
     
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