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S&G bubble,tough spot w. A/K

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  1. GLMM GLMM is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 8:16am)

    $10,1 Table.. 4 left ..Blinds are $100/$200

    Stacks are roughly

    UTG $3000, Player 2 $3700 , SB (me) $2300 , BB $2500

    UTG raises to $600, Player 2 re-raises to $1000..

    UTG has been raising pretty regularly,Player 2 has shown down good hands and seems somewhat weak tight,but not a terrible player by any means.

    I ended up folding and never got to see either hand as UTG folded as well. I think I normally go for it here,but I'm in a mini-rut having alot of 4th place finishes lately.

    I bubbled about 15 mins later.

    Playing scared or OK to fold here..
  2. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 9:52am) in reply to GLMM

    Player 2's raise is sort of scary to you. He puts 1,000 in, but you figure he's calling you for sure for 1300 more, into what will be about 4,000 pot. You can't just call here either. You also have no idea what UTG has (for all you know, he has AA or KK, his bet indicates potentially something).

    That being said, this might not be a bad time to flip. Even though you can't eliminate anyone, you win and you put yourself in a strong first place, with the ability to push your stack around a bit.

    I love AK, so I think I push here. But, I don't think it's a bad fold. It's marginal both ways.
  3. mash mash is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 10:14am) in reply to lordxixor101

    I'd push here also, at this point it's a good occasion to make a move and you can't be certain if there will be any better. So I'd go all-in, maybe isolate therefore UTG and forcing him to fold and I think I'd be at worst in a coinflip with the button.
     
  4. johnnyknish johnnyknish is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 10:24am) in reply to GLMM

    i like this fold i hate AK in this situation theres a raise and a reraise with you caught in the middle. there is no telling what the original raiser is going to do..so a call is out and pushing is not that bright because you have just about no fold equity. at best your hoping for a flip and with player2s minraise i would be scared of a big hand
  5. echobravo007 echobravo007 is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 10:44am) in reply to johnnyknish

    Are you going for fist or third. Instant all in! Im not worried about the UTG cause you said hes raising all the time. The button has also recognized this there fore raising with just about anything decent with an AX. If he has AA, or KK your screwed and if he doesnt your odds are great. Its four hande member. Suited A9 looks like AA to some people member. I like to call them fish. Hopes this helped
  6. johnnyknish johnnyknish is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 10:58am) in reply to echobravo007

    do you wanna be in the money or on the bubble???? its not just one raise were talking about here. people on the bubble don't like to reraise unless its for all there chips with sketchy hands like A9. he basically min raised and is bating the all in
  7. RJA87 RJA87 is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2007 (7/11/2007 4:01pm) in reply to johnnyknish

    It is tough with both raises in front of you, but like you said UTG has been raising alot so he can be put on anything, unlikely he has a hand that can call 2 reraises, and you barely have above 10 bbs so I think this is a good time to move in and go for the flip, if he happens to have AA/KK not much you can do.
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