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  1. gents-bot gents-bot is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 8:34am)

    Ok so, I almost never play sattelites but last night i decided to give it a shot cuz i got out of most of my MTT's. It was a 100 buy in with 65 players or so. top 12 gets 500 buy in to FTOPS main event. 13th gets 80 bucks.

    we are 1 away from the tourney buy in and i have about 5000 chips which puts me about 6th or 7th out of 13 and blinds are 150 300.

    My plan is to sit tight and get the buy in because there are a few small stacks that will probably get out and i will get what i worked for all this time BUT the big stack on my button who has been raising about 70% of hands decides to raise my button and i wake up with AA.

    I decide to not get cute in how i play it and try to take it down right away since i have more than enough chips to make him fold (or so i thought). so i re-ship all in and ge insta-called by 9 10 of hearts and he flops a flush and takes me out one before the tournament seat.

    So my question is: since i had enough chips to most likely get the seat anyways is it approppriate to decide to pass on my AA 1 before the money. I'm probably only doing that with AA KK and maybe QQ in that sitation since i dont wanna risk what i dont have to but at the same time i figured that i would probably just take it down and buy myself a few more rounds of the blinds. Should i have smooth called and seen a flop and then taken it down? What do YOU think??
  2. deadeyed deadeyed is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 9:22am) in reply to gents-bot

    this is one of the very few times your should muck AA pre flop. If you are sitting 6th or 7th and there are 12 seats then you have nothing to gain by playing anything at all, especially against a player who can bust you. Sklansky writes about this very thing in his excellent book, "tournament poker for advanced players."
  3. computerb computerb is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 9:28am) in reply to deadeyed

    Fold to the money is a good strategy for satellites.
  4. alfieo alfieo is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 9:49am) in reply to computerb

    I would fold and show him the AA and then call him a prick!
  5. Stone316 Stone316 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 11:58am) in reply to alfieo

    ^^^^^^^^ LOL
  6. ekim223 ekim223 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 12:12pm) in reply to gents-bot

    Fold 2 Cash

    Skeet to not satty into the FTOPS
  7. gents-bot gents-bot is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 12:22pm) in reply to gents-bot

    Thanks a lot guys i think you are right. part of me just wanted to play back at him because he was one of the most abnoxious players ive ever had the displeasure of playing with but i should have let me ego get in the way. i also didnt want the shortstacks to double up and then find myself to be in all in or fold mode but that was unlikely and i should have worried about it when that time came- not before. thanks and good luck everybody
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  8. fimanoid fimanoid is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 12:27pm) in reply to gents-bot

    block chat of the annoying players - this will cure you from trying to play back at them because of your ego or whatever the garbage they spew in chat.

    definately fold AA here. you have nothing to win (more chips do not matter in the satellite, as long as you get the seat), but have a lot to loose as he can take you out.
  9. MonkeyCowboy MonkeyCowboy is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2007 (2/13/2007 1:02pm) in reply to gents-bot

    Two men were sitting by a campfire when a bear entered the camp site. One man started putting on his sneakers. The other man looks at him and says "You can't out run that bear" to which he replied "I do not have to out run the bear, I just have to out run you"

    Satellites are much like this old joke, you do not have to win you just have to finish in front of the last player out.

    Many times my wife will ask me "How much does 1st pay", to which I will reply "$215", then she will ask "How much does 12th pay" to which I will reply "$215". this flat pay out takes alot of the pressure off to get all the chips, or at least it should.

    Don't try to out run the bear just beat the last person out.

    In the 1983 movie "War Games" Matthew Broderick plays a young man that finds a back door into a military central computer in which reality is confused with game-playing, possibly starting World War III. In the end the military computer says "<SPAN>A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

    This is a concept that is so many players just can not grasp. At some point in time near the end of the satellite your winning move is not to play. Remember this is a flat payout and the most you can win is $215, first place gets no more no less and the last guy out usually gets nothing. So if you are in 6th place 13 places get paid and there are 16 left, what do you have to gain by playing any hand what so ever? Nothing you can only lose by playing.
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