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sattied in, 25people to go in warm up, and this, is push on the turn ok or stupid?

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  1. happyking happyking is offline

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    Feb 6th, 2011 (2/6/2011 10:05pm)

    pokerstars Game #57234305604: Tournament #405020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1250/2500) - 2011/02/06 21:41:50 UTC [2011/02/06 16:41:50 ET]
    Table '405020016 214' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: wiper222 (32438 in chips)
    Seat 2: DirtyLatin (58124 in chips)
    Seat 3: buriedatsea (23278 in chips)
    Seat 4: geshgesh (34361 in chips)
    Seat 5: tickkid (47226 in chips)
    Seat 6: JimDarnaby35 (47219 in chips)
    Seat 7: wormnorton (52106 in chips)
    Seat 8: starpinguine (49190 in chips)
    Seat 9: WiLDmAn75 (115358 in chips)
    wiper222: posts the ante 250
    DirtyLatin: posts the ante 250
    buriedatsea: posts the ante 250
    geshgesh: posts the ante 250
    tickkid: posts the ante 250
    JimDarnaby35: posts the ante 250
    wormnorton: posts the ante 250
    starpinguine: posts the ante 250
    WiLDmAn75: posts the ante 250
    DirtyLatin: posts small blind 1250
    buriedatsea: posts big blind 2500
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to tickkid [As Kh]
    geshgesh: folds
    tickkid: raises 5000 to 7500
    JimDarnaby35: folds
    wormnorton: folds
    starpinguine: folds
    WiLDmAn75: calls 7500
    wiper222: folds
    DirtyLatin: folds
    buriedatsea: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9s Ad Qs]
    tickkid: checks
    WiLDmAn75: bets 4500
    tickkid: calls 4500
    *** TURN *** [9s Ad Qs] [4h]
    tickkid: checks
    WiLDmAn75: bets 6800
    tickkid: raises 28176 to 34976 and is all-in
    WiLDmAn75: calls 28176
    *** RIVER *** [9s Ad Qs 4h] [6h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    tickkid: shows [As Kh] (a pair of Aces)
    WiLDmAn75: shows [Ac 9c] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
    WiLDmAn75 collected 99952 from pot
    tickkid finished the tournament in 709th place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 99952 | Rake 0
    Board [9s Ad Qs 4h 6h]
    Seat 1: wiper222 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: DirtyLatin (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: buriedatsea (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: geshgesh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: tickkid showed [As Kh] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 6: JimDarnaby35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: wormnorton folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: starpinguine folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: WiLDmAn75 showed [Ac 9c] and won (99952) with two pair, Aces and Nines

    is he always outplaying me on this board?
    looking on it now, he is bet sizing to get me all in on the river intentionally isnt he?
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Feb 7th, 2011 (2/7/2011 12:13am) in reply to happyking

    Your thread title says "25 to go"...do you mean until the money?

    He definitely isn't bet sizing to get you all-in, necessarily...if he was, he would have bet more than 1/3 the pot on the flop and turn. He would have bet enough on the flop where the turn was a shove.

    I think your line is OK.
     
  3. Hovis139 Hovis139 is offline

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    Feb 7th, 2011 (2/7/2011 2:30pm) in reply to grapsfan

     
    Originally Posted by grapsfan View Post

    Your thread title says "25 to go"...do you mean until the money?

    He definitely isn't bet sizing to get you all-in, necessarily...if he was, he would have bet more than 1/3 the pot on the flop and turn. He would have bet enough on the flop where the turn was a shove.

    I think your line is OK.

    THIS
  4. KingBustYou KingBustYou is offline

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    Feb 8th, 2011 (2/8/2011 9:03pm) in reply to Hovis139

    ul, but with just under 19bb i'd be more inclined to just openshove AK instead of opening it from ep cuz you'll miss the flop 2/3 of the time and it would be terrible to have to cbet/fold if you missed with that stack. You might even get called by AQ (in this case it wouldve been terrible :p) or MP's in which case your flippin with a decent amount of equity. And just picking up the blinds will increase your stack by almost 13%. And in your case where you sattied in, getting itm must mean alot to you so being so close to cashing i wouldnt make it diffucult by possibly getting yourself into a tough spot this shallowstacked.
    also, open less like 2.2x-2.5x max once your playing w antes.
  5. happyking happyking is offline

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    Feb 9th, 2011 (2/9/2011 7:14pm) in reply to KingBustYou

    thanks for the replys, esp about open shoving this many bbs i think that suits my situation well.
    This did hurt, i satty in through the steps a lot but have no bankroll and i pay for my steps/games direct and cash out every win. ithink this may be my real issue with this hand..
    i dont really think it was a mistake as such, as i did have some notion of opening up and taking over my table, but after the hand i felt i was outplayed and mad at missing out on some kind of bankroll.
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  6. Ready Ready is offline

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    Feb 9th, 2011 (2/9/2011 7:44pm) in reply to KingBustYou

     
    Originally Posted by KingBustYou View Post

    ul, but with just under 19bb i'd be more inclined to just openshove AK instead of opening it from ep cuz you'll miss the flop 2/3 of the time and it would be terrible to have to cbet/fold if you missed with that stack. You might even get called by AQ (in this case it wouldve been terrible :p) or MP's in which case your flippin with a decent amount of equity. And just picking up the blinds will increase your stack by almost 13%. And in your case where you sattied in, getting itm must mean alot to you so being so close to cashing i wouldnt make it diffucult by possibly getting yourself into a tough spot this shallowstacked.
    also, open less like 2.2x-2.5x max once your playing w antes.

    100% this......Your situation, which you agree to, is that you need the bankroll. Based on the stacks I really believe there is only one play here and that is a full on shove.
    Though your villian has the chips I somewhat doubt he is calling the all in bet....and if he does your way ahead, take a beat and move on.
    Edited By: Ready Feb 9th, 2011 at 07:45 PM
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