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  1. SmileyLSU SmileyLSU is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 3:43pm)

    Satty for the ME $370 tourney. 12 left. 8 paid. top 6 get entry. I am 5th in chips. SB limped into my BB 2 rounds ago and I shoved him and he folded. This is my only read. What would you do???????

    pokerstars Game #45394780589: Tournament #281618530, $8.08+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (4000/8000) - 2010/06/12 0:15:39 CT [2010/06/12 1:15:39 ET]
    Table '281618530 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 3: 14061962 (34336 in chips)
    Seat 5: Jakennalynn (114913 in chips)
    Seat 6: SmileyLSU (85731 in chips)
    Seat 7: stole-rod (59999 in chips)
    Seat 8: oneye805 (15904 in chips)
    14061962: posts the ante 800
    Jakennalynn: posts the ante 800
    SmileyLSU: posts the ante 800
    stole-rod: posts the ante 800
    oneye805: posts the ante 800
    Jakennalynn: posts small blind 4000
    SmileyLSU: posts big blind 8000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SmileyLSU [Td Th]
    stole-rod: folds
    oneye805: folds
    14061962: folds
    Jakennalynn: raises 106113 to 114113 and is all-in
    SmileyLSU: ????
  2. qwik2pwn qwik2pwn is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 3:53pm) in reply to SmileyLSU

    I'd fold. Just my .02
  3. Albert Chuns Albert Chuns is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 3:54pm) in reply to qwik2pwn

    Snap Call. Obv it looks as if he is trying to abuse your blinds. I think that it is a bad play to fold to the AI from the sb. What were results?
     
  4. Sweet Call Sweet Call is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 3:59pm) in reply to Albert Chuns

    easy fold in this situation
     
  5. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 4:46pm) in reply to Sweet Call

    In satty, you aren't looking to win the tournament. You are looking to win the seat. Survival is the issue. There are three short stacks on your table and probably some on the other table.

    Why would you want to call off your tournament life against the player that can bust you.

    Look for a better situation and bet your chips FTA vs shorty
  6. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 5:26pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    Stack wise, your all in push / fold mode.
    Against one of the smaller stacks its a call, but against this guy who can eliminate you, I would play safe and fold.
    Maybe some of the math geniuses could figure the situation out?
  7. SmileyLSU SmileyLSU is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 5:53pm) in reply to rayfox111

    Results are: I folded. I ended up winning the satty...but it was hard fought. Had to shove a lot of marginal spots. Not sure if mathematically I made the right fold. If I call and win, I basically have my seat locked up. Call and lose, and I am out with no money. I am all about folding AA when I have the seat locked up...but this is one of those middle of the road situations where I am not sure what the correct play is.
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  8. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 7:08pm) in reply to SmileyLSU

    Nice one, it worked out well.
    A very difficult spot. I studied it for a while, but could not make a firm decision that I was happy with.
    I settled for a fold, but like you, not sure if thats the right move.
  9. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2010 (6/12/2010 7:53pm) in reply to rayfox111

    ICM calculation. You are playing like its a Winner take all. If you bust you get nothing and win and you lock up a seat.

    <table class="simple" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; width: auto;" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><th>Player</th><th>Stack</th><th>Push%</th><th>EQPre</th><th>EQPost</th><th>EQDiff</th></tr><tr><td>UTG</td><td>59999.0</td><td>29.4%</td><td>0.193</td><td>0.1973</td><td>0.00428</td></tr><tr><td>CO</td><td>15904.0</td><td>65.9%</td><td>0.0512</td><td>0.0553</td><td>0.00418</td></tr><tr><td>BU</td><td>34336.0</td><td>50.5%</td><td>0.1105</td><td>0.1157</td><td>0.00522</td></tr><tr><td>SB</td><td>114913.0</td><td>65.6%</td><td>0.3697</td><td>0.365</td><td>-0.00468</td></tr><tr><td>BB</td><td>85713.0</td><td>
    </td><td>0.2757</td><td>0.2667</td><td>-0.00901</td></tr></tbody></table>
    <table class="simple" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; width: auto;" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td>SB</td><td>
    </td><td>
    </td><td>65.6%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q3o+ J2s+ J7o+ T3s+ T7o+ 95s+ 97o+ 84s+ 86o+ 74s+ 76o 63s+ 53s+ 43s</td></tr><tr><td>
    </td><td>BB</td><td>
    </td><td>46.9%, 22+ Kx+ Q3s+ Q7o+ J7s+ J8o+ T7s+ T9o 98s <<<<< calling range
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    You can call this wide but it's a terrible thing to lose when several players are going busto before you go through the blinds again.
    The equity chart shows calling is a slight negative (-0.00901). It's close at best.
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