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SCOOP-08-M Tough Spot

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  1. dufchips dufchips is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2009 (4/7/2009 3:14am)

    pokerstars Game #26764068542: Tournament #200904082, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/04/05 17:41:49 ET
    Table '200904082 262' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: ArachnoJoozt (11597 in chips)
    Seat 2: SizouSayz (11186 in chips)
    Seat 3: PATPIM92 (3750 in chips)
    Seat 4: Salau (6820 in chips)
    Seat 5: RonIrishMofo (9723 in chips)
    Seat 6: ShankingYou (14620 in chips)
    Seat 7: BraveJayhawk (9400 in chips)
    Seat 8: dufchips (8380 in chips)
    Seat 9: bones961 (13934 in chips)
    ArachnoJoozt: posts the ante 10
    SizouSayz: posts the ante 10
    PATPIM92: posts the ante 10
    Salau: posts the ante 10
    RonIrishMofo: posts the ante 10
    ShankingYou: posts the ante 10
    BraveJayhawk: posts the ante 10
    dufchips: posts the ante 10
    bones961: posts the ante 10
    Salau: posts small blind 50
    RonIrishMofo: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dufchips [Qc Qh]
    ShankingYou: folds
    BraveJayhawk: folds
    dufchips: raises 200 to 300
    bones961: calls 300
    ArachnoJoozt: folds
    SizouSayz: folds
    PATPIM92: folds
    Salau: folds
    RonIrishMofo: raises 850 to 1150
    dufchips: calls 850
    bones961: calls 850
    *** FLOP *** [7d 4h 9d]
    RonIrishMofo: bets 3250
    dufchips: ???

    Thoughts please?
  2. elimherr elimherr is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2009 (4/7/2009 4:07am) in reply to dufchips

    looks like a 56dd maybe to me
     
  3. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2009 (4/7/2009 5:07am) in reply to elimherr

    Against a random I think you have to stack off here as gross as it is. Any idea if his range includes 1010/jj? Realistically there's only 2 hands you're actually behind here and thats kk/aa.
     
  4. dufchips dufchips is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2009 (4/8/2009 2:48am) in reply to rivverkiller

    I am very confident he is not drawing with his 3-bet pf and his leading bet indicates he is not folding this hand and simultaneously representing great strength. With 2 players to act behind, who have both called the 3-bet, on a relatively meaningless flop leaves me with the ultimate decision; do I want to risk my tournament life with an over pair in which it is basically a coin flip that determines whether QQ is good...or can I wait for a better spot in such a deepstacked tournament? I decided to muck that hand and found out no further information from the player as the other player also folded. The table has been tight as this was early in the tournament and there was very little 3-betting pf.
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  5. PSUStudent PSUStudent is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2009 (4/8/2009 8:12am) in reply to dufchips

    dont think folding is right here. you have to ask yourself what would he do if he had 99s 10s jjs ak, he is going to 3bet. not to mention the fact that he could squeezeplay and pick up chips although that is unlikely cus he doesnt need to but cant be ruled out.

    based on the range of hands that you can beat vs the hands that beat you, you cant fold here.

    after his 3bet pf, he s gonna cbet pretty much any flop whether he has air or ak or 10s on that flop.

    so u have to go for it and if u run into kk or as u have to more chances to catch the 2outer but i think if u shove the flop, he will fold or call w 99/10s more often than have kks or aas. idk its fine if u folded to be entirely safe but i would have to go for it in this spot.
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