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  1. aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:33am)

    Bombshell #252323 (a continuing series)

    I am reliably informed that Scott Tom has account at Ultimate Bet under the name of 'PotChopper'
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  2. charder charder is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:35am) in reply to aaronbeen

    DO YOU NO WHO I AM

    <3 AARONBEEN/SPANISHKEY.

    o and if true, thats pretty intresting. IS he cheating there too?
     
  3. aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:37am) in reply to charder

    more interesting accounts:

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&User=7262 = RUNNINONMT on UB
    That player is Brent Beckley, another major player at AP

    his email is brent@rivieraltd.com and from the montana group of people who run ap
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  4. riskybusines riskybusines is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:37am) in reply to aaronbeen

    scott tom = zodiac
  5. aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:48am) in reply to riskybusines

    He also played the pokerstars 25-50 games as FatRaiser
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  6. shankingyou shankingyou is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:59am) in reply to aaronbeen

    Did a little research on Brent Beckley...From the alumni page of his SAE frat his last known location is Miami. One of the accused cheaters by the name of steamroller had his city listed as Miami. Obv just a coincidence AP has this under control.
  7. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 5:33am) in reply to aaronbeen

    Uhm.. Just curious..
    Were they winning players on the other sites?
  8. hrk hrk is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 5:45am) in reply to aaronbeen

    Not sure if this is a joke or not, but potchopper has played 22 mtt's at UB, abi $115, and never cashed.
  9. aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 5:48am) in reply to hrk

    This is not a joke or a "level" or something it's all stuff I've heard from people I trust. I haven't datamined the games but the regulars seem to think fatraiser was a big loser. No idea about how any of the UB accounts did in cash games.
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  10. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 5:51am) in reply to hrk

    nodoby is saying they are cheating on any other site besides AP... they appear to be losing players everywhere else, FTP cash, stars cash and mtt, and now it seems UB
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  11. ActionJeff ActionJeff is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 6:22am) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    pokerstars Game #12430508288: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2007/10/04 - 10:34:00 (ET)
    Table 'Eriphyla' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Martine23 ($14066 in chips)
    Seat 2: FATRAISER ($6419 in chips)
    Seat 3: tyra79 ($4544 in chips)
    Seat 4: samh133 ($10424 in chips)
    Seat 5: LittleZen ($4925 in chips)
    Seat 6: hardkAre ($17708 in chips)
    samh133: posts small blind $25
    LittleZen: posts big blind $50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hardkAre [9c 9s]
    hardkAre: raises $100 to $150
    Martine23: folds
    FATRAISER: raises $200 to $350
    tyra79: folds
    samh133: folds
    LittleZen: folds
    hardkAre: raises $700 to $1050
    FATRAISER: calls $700
    *** FLOP *** [9h 6h 5h]
    hardkAre: bets $1450
    FATRAISER: raises $3919 to $5369 and is all-in
    hardkAre: calls $3919
    *** TURN *** [9h 6h 5h] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [9h 6h 5h 5d] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    hardkAre: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
    FATRAISER: mucks hand
    hardkAre collected $12910 from pot
    FATRAISER leaves the table
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $12913 | Rake $3
    Board [9h 6h 5h 5d Qh]
    Seat 1: Martine23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: FATRAISER mucked [Qd Jd]
    Seat 3: tyra79 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: samh133 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: LittleZen (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: hardkAre showed [9c 9s] and won ($12910) with a full house, Nines full of Fives

    PokerStars Game #12431390718: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2007/10/04 - 11:49:09 (ET)
    Table 'Penelope' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Hardgrove ($10114 in chips)
    Seat 2: $tinger 88 ($4925 in chips)
    Seat 3: FATRAISER ($15192.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: hardkAre ($8985 in chips)
    Seat 5: chunmin ($9122 in chips)
    Seat 6: samh133 ($11015 in chips)
    FATRAISER: posts small blind $25
    hardkAre: posts big blind $50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hardkAre [Jh As]
    chunmin: folds
    samh133: raises $100 to $150
    Hardgrove: folds
    $tinger 88: calls $150
    FATRAISER said, "anyone notice that?"
    FATRAISER: calls $125
    Hardgrove said, "with a healthy stack, though..."
    hardkAre: raises $600 to $750
    samh133: folds
    FATRAISER said, "didnt say they dont have money "
    $tinger 88: folds
    FATRAISER: calls $600
    *** FLOP *** [8d 6c 3h]
    FATRAISER: checks
    hardkAre: bets $1200
    FATRAISER: calls $1200
    *** TURN *** [8d 6c 3h] [8c]
    FATRAISER: checks
    hardkAre: checks
    *** RIVER *** [8d 6c 3h 8c] [3c]
    FATRAISER: bets $7000
    hardkAre: calls $7000
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    FATRAISER: shows [Jc 4d] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
    hardkAre: shows [Jh As] (two pair, Eights and Threes - Ace kicker)
    hardkAre collected $18197 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $18200 | Rake $3
    Board [8d 6c 3h 8c 3c]
    Seat 1: Hardgrove folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: $tinger 88 (button) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: FATRAISER (small blind) showed [Jc 4d] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
    Seat 4: hardkAre (big blind) showed [Jh As] and won ($18197) with two pair, Eights and Threes
    Seat 5: chunmin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: samh133 folded before Flop

    i'm gonna go out n a limb here and say "no"
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  12. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 6:51am) in reply to ActionJeff

    Don't you find thes hand histories to be a little odd?

    Shove when drawing dread and then called by Ace high, both to same guy...?
    Can you imagine any scenerio of why they might want to be dumping money on stars?

    I know there are swap sites. Maybe he/they swapped money off of AP thru sites to pokerstars and then dumped it to unrelated account?

    Im not saying any of this is fact at all, I just find that hand history to be very odd considering the circumstances.
  13. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 7:09am) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    Same dump situation, Same villian, Different table.

    Something just doesnt add up.
    Do you have any more of these hand histories ActionJeff?
  14. nw25th nw25th is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 7:15am) in reply to shankingyou

    Not sure if the community is aware of this...but I'm about 96% sure that AP was started by SAE's from Montana....
  15. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 7:17am) in reply to aaronbeen

    If you guys got any more Names from any sites please post them along with Site asap.
    Or any other wierd hand histories of game situations where "chip dumping" might be invloved.
    Here is what I have so far:

    AP
    POTRIPPER, STEAMROLLER, DOUBLEDRAG, GRAYCAT, PAYUP, SUPERCARDM55, REYMNALDO
    stars
    FAT RAISER
    UB
    PotChopper, BombShell, RUNNINONMT
  16. reddog133 reddog133 is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 7:55am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    i played any time fatraiser was in the 25/50 game on stars i wanna say 2 weeks ago and he is horrendous, literally just spewing money off. I would imagine these guys are making so much money off the scam that they just are basically dicking around here. Also he dumped to the whole table every day so chip dumping is out of the question.
  17. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 8:32am) in reply to reddog133

    do you have any hand histories reddog?
  18. ActionJeff ActionJeff is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 9:02am) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    they are not dumping stars money. The guy is just really bad at poker. PLays kind of like potripper but he can't see hole cards, lol. That was the only point
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  19. aaronbeen aaronbeen is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 3:04pm) in reply to aaronbeen

    Someone just leaked to me that "Scott Tom is also sptom and potjacker on UB."
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  20. wild_ride wild_ride is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 3:23pm) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    Hey theef think a bit before posting.

    Jeff is posting hand histories from someone he knows (YOU CAN SEE THE HOLE CARDS).

    Do you think he would post them if he was chip dumping into him?

    This is more than being a bad player, this is having too much money to play as if he was at a .01 ,02 table
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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:06pm) in reply to aaronbeen

    almost makes me glad I play micro stakes :)
  22. Camz Camz is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:11pm) in reply to aaronbeen

    You would think if Scott Tom had multiple names it wouldnt' be POTxxxx and POTyyyy.
  23. donkkkkk donkkkkk is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:12pm) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    THIEF are you trying to make an unofficial list of cheaters? Well I think what you're doing is wrong, cuz you have no proof and why you trying to track down other cheaters? Is it your job.? Get a life.
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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 4:17pm) in reply to Camz

    pot + 2 syllable verb synonymous with tear
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