All of the literature regarding bankroll management is always on the side of extreme caution. The whole point of bankroll management seems to be avoid going bust, not to make the most profit, like the guy that plays the safest stocks for the most security but not necessarily making the plays to make the most money.

What I am interested in knowing from some of the poker experts that have been around for awhile is which is the best way to make a lot of money quick in poker while excepting a high probability of going bust? What is the best risk reward play?

I've been in a rut past few months while living in Thailand, making only a small profit in MTTs. My bankroll hasn't been growing and I've basically just been paying my living expenses. I simply don't have the patience to grind sit and goes or middle limit cash games and MTTs are not nearly as interesting as they once were. Whereas once when I had a big stack late in a tourney it was a great feeling now its just anotehr day at the office. Perhaps this has to do with burn out factor, playing too much sapping the enjoyment out of the game. I watch my friend whose an online pro grinding out 200-400 a day in 1/2 no limit and heads up matches who has a 30k bankroll and I just can't do that.

I had a pretty good bankroll last year when I made some big scores in tourneys online and was doing pretty well. Then I blew about 25k in big live tourneys that I did terrible in and another 30k in personal stuff over the past 6 months. So when my bankroll had peaked and hovered around 40K-50K all of that slowly brought it down to 10-15k where it has been fluctuating of late. Still a workable roll but hovering near rock bottom.

What I am interested in is quadupling my bankroll in about a months time. I don't care if I go bust as there are other things I can do to make money and just because I bust doesn't mean I will quit poker. So many of the pros have gone bust multiple times over, including my best poker friends. I haven't gone bust yet just starting out but I'm tired of the grind as well. I want to win a lot of money quick or go bust. If I succeed in winning a lot of money I will probably then play the live circuit of tourneys with $500-3k buy ins.

Which of these, or other suggestions, has the best risk reward for a winning poker player to win a lot quickly:

- Transfer all of my poker cash to party poker and play the high limit Omaha games. Omaha is my favorite and most successful cash game and you can win or lose a massive amount quickly. Play a loose gambling style.

- Play all the big buy in online tourneys with big prize pools. Play every Sunday tourney and a few other big ones throughout the week with about total 3k buy ins each week. Play a loose gambling style.

- Wait for the WSOP and play in the Omaha side games there. If I'm successful in the omaha also play the tournaments.

- Cash out my winnings and play in 7-8 live tourneys with 1-2k buys ins during a WPT.

Whatever you do, can we film it and call it the first 30 minutes of rounders?

All jokes aside, it seems to me that if you really wanted to do this that the sunday MTT idea would be the safest. More chances to hit it big than a side game.

Yes I'm a slacker looking for the easy way out and a degenerate gambler, hence wanting to win a lot quickly.

However I'm also a decent poker player (but not elite I acknowledge with only a year's experience) with an edge over the field so atleast in this way I have some control overy my chances. And a months time is a lot of time to gradually accrue money, its not pure gambling like taking 1 shot on the UB 50/100 Omaha table or craps. As long as I play well and don't have a bad streak or go on tilt, I should be able to win, maybe win a lot if I get a little lucky.

If you got lucky in the UB $50/100 PLO game you'd make a killing. Look at the stack those guys make everyday. If you hit it right then you could make $50K in a few hours. I don't like the big tourrney route bc theres too much luck. Try a big cash game.

Put it all on black.

dude i have done this experiemnt before and it doesnt work out. about a month ago, i deposited just 100 dollars into bodog to see what he site had to offer and looking to gamble, lil on sports, but mostly on poker. i played wiht my entire bankroll the whole time, jumping levels at soon as i could. well within 5 days i had turned that 100 into about 11k ending up at the 10/20 nl table. i was riding a major high man, thought i was invincible. well needless to say it didnt last long, i had goals of turning that 11k into 100 k in no time and ended up at 0. yeah thats right, a big fat 0 in my bodog account. entire bankroll down the drain in about 48 hours all because i was playing outside of my bankroll. when playing like this you might hit it big, but know when to get out!

The goal is meaningless, just an abitrary number, and winning or losing that money won't make much difference either way.

But maybe it goes deeper than that, that I need to hit rock bottom, get back to basics, get a real job and a real life. I've had a crazy lifestyle past few years flying around the world, banging lots of girls, blowing my money, doing crazy things and ignoring my family and my responsibilities. Things like poker, and selling Magic cards before that, kept the bills paid and my lifestyle going. But I wasn't going anywhere in life or accomplishing anything. The girls I met were 2-3 month flings, the friends I made short time acquaintences, and the money I made in one hand and out the next, nothing I did was meant to last or grow into something meaningful.

I don't know if I'll hit rock bottom, but perhaps that's what I need to do to get back to reality.

A psychologist would probably find it interesting that the topic of this thread is " I want to Bust or quadruple up" and not the other way round.

It may even seem like you are on self-destruct mission cos you are not in a happy place poker-wise.

Take the 15k, buy a 12 month CD and forget about it.
You will then be broke and moving down the path you have chosen.
At the end of the year, you can then decide to re-start your poker career with your 15k in found money or rollover the CD and continue your square job.

bet it all on green

I suspect this sort of thing runs in your family. Addictive behaviors, etc. Same with me. You might want to consider this in making your choices.

Take your bankroll and throw the entire thing into some sort of investment...and then stop playing poker for a year. Get a real job, find out how much it sucks, then you'll appreciate your poker playing days and realize that you probably don't want to work a real job for the rest of your life.

The point is, you can "hit bottom" without actually throwing away your money. Give up poker and gambling completely and I can guarantee that you'll feel like you've hit bottom. Having to work a 9-5 job after the lifestyle you've just described will give you the same feeling as throwing away 15K.

I agree with the post that said you have an addiction. Throw your money into an investment where you can't touch it for a period of a couple years, try this "living the real life" thing, and attended some GA classes. If after a year or two you still feel the need to go bust, then pull your money out and go nuts.

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