not sure I understand........maybe im missing something......but is this "Amazing call" postworthy?

Looks pretty standard to me......(Obv no offense SCT.....you are god-like)........

^^^^^^yup

God i love it when BB resteal shove monkeys get picked off like this.

<span>How </span>did you <span>make </span>this <span>call</span> <span>all-in</span> for your <span><span><span>tourney life??????</span></span></span>

also only playing 7 handed. position/stacks/stage were factors in making this call

You're lucky he didn't take your LIFE!!

In Button/SB/BB situations the number of people at the table is nearly irrelvent.

The number of people at the table is important in how you make decisions because the number of people left to act BEHIND you changes the ranges you need to be playing (aka the gap theory. Google it)

But the number of players left to act behind you is the same when you are on the button in a 3 handed game as it does when you are on the button in a 10 handed game.

One difference is that theoretically if 7 players have folded in front of you, its more likely that the remaining hands contain higher quantities of face cards and aces (if the players before you had those cards they would be playing them. People fold junk not face cards and aces) This however, is of little practical use and should barely affect ranges if at all.

Another difference is that is your adjusted M is lower 7 handed than 9 handed. So your stack is effectivly shorter and this should result in more aggressive play. However the difference between 7 handed and 9 handed isn't too large, and not nearly as noticable until you get to 4 or 5 handed.

threeven is a very smart man, you should listen to him

Tournament life doesn't exist ? Here is espn article by bernard lee

Bernard finished 13th in the 2005 WSOP Main Event, taking home a cool $400,000 as the top New England finisher. Along with his contributions to ESPN.com, Bernard is the weekly poker columnist for the Boston Herald.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker...amp;id=2836242

I haven't read that article, but I have heard from people who have played with him that Bernard Lee is good and solid, but a bit weak tight in spots.

What they mean by no tournement life, is that its not worth it to give up a +EV situation simply because you run a risk of busting.

I think there are small exceptions, like if you raise and someone reraises all in, and you are getting decent odds with a marginal hand. If calling and losing cripples you, and leaves you with no fold equity, I think it can be argued that it can be worth it to fold a very marginally +EV pot odds call. However, the situation has to be VERY marginal for a fold to be correct facing a +EV pot odds call (like getting 2 to 1 on call when you estimate you are very slightly less than 2 to 1 to win, maybe 1.9 to 1 or so.)

Tournament life is very very insignificant for a good player. Passing on +ev situations because its for your "tournament life" is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake in poker. Obviously there are a few situations where your tournament life is valuable, like when your edge on the field is overwhelming, or on the bubble, or during a satellite (obviously). But for the most part, you should very very very rarely factor in "tournament life" in your decisions.

didnt read the entire thread but i bet ppl commented on the tourney life reference ahahhaha

I saw a similar hand like this, and sheets was involved its was in the nightly pokerstars hundred Grand -my friend told me about it - it was in a pokerxfactor video. It was similar but not exact situation. And I think Sheets had A7,A8 and it was for his tournament life. But he makes the call and sure enough he called the players push with 93o.

BUT it was based on his READ OF THE PLAYER. That similar player had been pushing like that 3 times already. So sheets knew he was probably ahead with his Ace high, and he made the tough call (knowing like strojan said that he was probably +EV against the "random" hand he put the player on)

which he even says in the video something like " I realy can't teach you that its just guts etc..." something like that. Those who have pokerxfactor know which video it is , I think its sheets 150 live (not sure I dont have pxf subscript :( )

Well played sctrojan .. sheets gg.... i agree with threeven... legalize online poker.... keep eating!

I agree: tourny life is an over-rated concept, but it is one that pro players can and do use to their advantage versus weak-tight amateurs. I just won the Mansion 10K GTD again tonight (sorry for the obv brag) and there are so many weak-tight amateurs on Mansion that overvalue their tourny life that abusing them and winning chips is pretty easy. When we were 5 handed one guy 2 to my left folded his way down to 1.5BBs and meanwhile another guy, directly on my left, was just folding to every single one of my button and SB/BB raises because he was waiting for the short-stack to bust so he could move up one place in the money. Little did either of them realise the $EV they were giving up by playing this way (all of which went to me and one other pro player at the table). Me and the other pro finished 1st and 2nd whereas the shorty finished 5th and the other weak tight player that I'd been abusing 4th. So their weak-tight play gained them nothing (actually lost them massive $EV).

Conversely, a little earlier when we were 11 handed, near the FT bubble, I open raised 2.5BBs with 99 (with around 12BBs behind: everyone is pretty short late in mansion). The big stack reraised me to 9BBs, effectively putting me all-in. After some thought I figured he was putting bubble pressure on me because he perhaps thought i valued my tourny life. As such I could put him on a much wider range that normal and, therefore, figure that it was a +EV play to move all-in with my 99 there. I expected to see a hand like A5+,KT+,55+ giving me a good edge (I figured 55/45 in my head, it is actually 57/43) and was delighted when he turned up 88 and I doubled up to the CL. If I would have taken tourny life into consideration I'm definitely making a -$EV decision by folding there.

lol =[