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second hand of 10$ 180 man sit n go

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  1. Maximus020202 Maximus020202 is offline

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    Belgium

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    Jul 1st, 2009 (7/1/2009 3:41pm)

    pokerstars Game #29988929513: Tournament #176091134, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/07/01 21:35:46 CET [2009/07/01 15:35:46 ET]
    Table '176091134 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: "NEEDoMONEY" (1510 in chips)
    Seat 2: SnazzySavage (1490 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: Maximus0202 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 4: knicker111 (1450 in chips)
    Seat 5: 43953 (1510 in chips)
    Seat 6: Kaiser_Beton (1635 in chips)
    Seat 7: muldul (1480 in chips)
    Seat 8: Plyshkin (1440 in chips)
    Seat 9: Rocky62077 (1515 in chips)
    muldul: posts small blind 10
    Plyshkin: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Maximus0202 [Ah Kc]
    Rocky62077: raises 20 to 40
    "NEEDoMONEY": folds
    SnazzySavage: folds
    Maximus0202: calls 40
    knicker111: raises 100 to 140
    43953: folds
    Kaiser_Beton: folds
    muldul: folds
    Plyshkin: folds
    Rocky62077: calls 100
    Maximus0202:

    Do I fold here or push?
    or flatcall? but I think flatcalling is kind of bad, cause I'm putting to much of my stack PF in the pot.

    What do you think?
  2. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jul 1st, 2009 (7/1/2009 4:40pm) in reply to Maximus020202

    Why did you flat the min-raise & invite calls? When UTG min-raised with AKo you should have been the one to pop it. there are good arguments to be made for both flatting and raising (I know the bulk of the comments will say raise or push).

    For flatting:
    You flatted once & this will close the action - you can see a flop & dump it cheep the 2/3s of the time when you miss. Because you played it so weak so far you're well hidden & you'll get more chips in when you hit. You have to do this sometimes, just like you have to play trash strong sometimes to keep the table guessing.

    For raising/pushing:
    You get more chips in with a premium hand. You may get to take the pot down now, with action already being raise/call/reraise/call thats no way certian. Even if you don't take it right here you may also isolate, also not certian, and if so its mostly the reraiser so you end up OOP anyway.

    I like the raise rather than the push because the raise you are basicly saying you are looking for action, but only one player. The push is such a big overbet you are saying just go away - its actualy a weaker bet. Either way you end up commited, its 100 to call & 320 in now the raise would be something like 500 to go so if a push comes back you are looking at ~2:1 - easy call & correct math even facing KK.

    If I thought a raise/push would generate some real FE I would say auto raise but as is overall I think its 50/50 flatting & raising so flip a coin.

    my 2 cents

    [edit]
    NEVER fold - AKo getting 3.2:1 on a call at least see a flop
  3. stackdown stackdown is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 8:37pm) in reply to Maximus020202

    It's so early in the tourney, why wouldn't you gamble? Shove all-in and try for a double up.
  4. elitewrestla elitewrestla is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 9:02pm) in reply to stackdown

    At the 10$ stakes I rarely respect/give credit to the min raise ever especially if it is at the first level of the tournament. I would probably pop his min raise of 40 to around 150 or 160 probably capping the raise at 4x over his original raise, by doing this you not only take control of the pot but you also show that you have a strong hand and the min. raise will not be tolerated. If he decides to 4 bet you ship it in and hope for the best because you can't be folding AK at these stakes unless under the most bizarre circumstances, so in all likelyhood your AK is the best hand and you should be in line for an early double.

    - Elite
     
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