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ship it or just raise pre with a short stack early in a tourney?

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  1. gemi9 gemi9 is offline

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    Dec 23rd, 2010 (12/23/2010 7:09pm)

    I run into this a lot not sure what to do with a 13-16 BB stack. Should I just be shoving with a stack like this? The problem I have about this is I only winning a very small pot & if I 'm called I'm crushed.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #26639613371: $19,500 Guarantee (206595683), Table 92 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:10:20 CT - 2010/12/23 [13:10:20 ET - 2010/12/23]
    Seat 1: tonydigio (2,130)
    Seat 2: Vantaggiato (295)
    Seat 3: DouglasFerreira (3,630)
    Seat 4: berto_boi (7,560)
    Seat 5: gemi9 (1,415)
    Seat 6: DannyDnay (5,947)
    Seat 7: jorea (8,225)
    Seat 8: burgersandcake (3,280)
    Seat 9: Patrick14268 (2,735)
    DouglasFerreira posts the small blind of 50
    berto_boi posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gemi9 [9c 9d]
  2. RobK16 RobK16 is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 1:55am) in reply to MapOfUrHead

    This is close. I put this into imc, and it says you should shove TT+, AT+, AJo+, KJs+, KQo+.

    However, since you are about to lose 10% of your stack (BB and SB), I would shove. If everyone folds u increase ur stack by 10%, and I think you're bet gets called by a slightly wider range than imc is saying (dependent on table dynamics). I would shove, looking to be called and doubled up. If you run into a better hand, or lose a flip, oh well. You need chips, so take a chance.
  3. tRaMSt0p tRaMSt0p is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 2:15am) in reply to gemi9

    The thing I've been working in situations like this when I'm dealt the goods (AA, KK or QQ) is that I open with a min-raise.

    I find that I tend to get shipped on by people holding those really marginal hands like A-10, A-rag and even KQ believing that I'm just trying to pick up the blinds with my super-powerful min-raise, and once they do ship it on me, I snap it off.

    You tend to get action out of hands that easily kick their cards to the muck when faced with a 10bb+ open-shove.

    However, my example mostly has a sample size from late position (button to lo-jack), so UTG is a different situation - but holding 99 and only having 14bbs it makes it so tricky, but I think getting it in is the right play.
  4. luckierno7 luckierno7 is offline

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    Dec 25th, 2010 (12/25/2010 10:15pm) in reply to tRaMSt0p

    shove
    or raise call
    4 balancing purposes raise call but i probably shove tho
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  5. jm5under jm5under is offline

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    Dec 29th, 2010 (12/29/2010 5:59pm) in reply to luckierno7

    shove all day
  6. alumnicafe alumnicafe is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 6:27pm) in reply to jm5under

     
    Originally Posted by jm5under View Post

    shove all day

    i think shove and min raise calling is fine just cause youl b doing that with your monsters, never folding so either way works
  7. Terry Posey Terry Posey is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 6:49pm) in reply to alumnicafe

    Raise to 300. You may get everyone to fold. If you have a read on someone who three bets here you can go with your read and shove if they raise light. Try it. Hope this helps.
  8. Fccount Fccount is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2010 (12/30/2010 8:35pm) in reply to Terry Posey

    I would just get it in.
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