Should I be calling in this situation to be +ev?

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  1. The Glutton The Glutton is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 11:52am)

    PokerStars Game #35082020465: Tournament #209010257, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/11/08 8:38:44 PT [2009/11/08 11:38:44 ET]
    Table '209010257 63' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: artkon1977 (68031 in chips)
    Seat 2: Marcio89 (128772 in chips)
    Seat 3: stopmen11 (40298 in chips)
    Seat 4: Boogieman19 (142387 in chips)
    Seat 5: misterWatto (96756 in chips)
    Seat 7: Vladimir715 (169023 in chips)
    Seat 8: lvrebel7 (98250 in chips)
    artkon1977: posts the ante 300
    Marcio89: posts the ante 300
    stopmen11: posts the ante 300
    Boogieman19: posts the ante 300
    misterWatto: posts the ante 300
    Vladimir715: posts the ante 300
    lvrebel7: posts the ante 300
    Marcio89: posts small blind 1500
    stopmen11: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to lvrebel7 [Qs Ac]
    Boogieman19: folds
    misterWatto: folds
    Vladimir715: folds
    lvrebel7: raises 5400 to 8400
    artkon1977: folds
    Marcio89: raises 120072 to 128472 and is all-in
    stopmen11: folds
    lvrebel7: ???
    Been playing with these guys for a couple of orbits. Marcio had seemed pretty solid up to this point, not too out of hand. He 3bet stole from me a couple of times when I was position raising from the cutoff or button, based on history and reads, is this a call?

    My image has been mostly TAG, but I have been picking my spots to steal.

    Thoughts?
  2. Goldenad Goldenad is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 12:17pm) in reply to The Glutton

    eh you have a lot of chips but at the same time if he has 3bet you multiple times before and you folded each time i might be inclined to call
     
  3. cheifnakid cheifnakid is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 2:44pm) in reply to Goldenad

    If you've been chipping away risk free, I would probably say just fold it and continue to grind. This guys probably not getting too out of line here since you could hurt his stack pretty good, and I'm thinking that his range probably has you in tough shape since he'll rarely be showing up with A,10.A,J.K,Q etc. in this spot.

    One more note...I'd much rather be betting/shoving with AQ than calling off my whole stack with it
  4. adam_mc adam_mc is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 3:28pm) in reply to cheifnakid

    plus expected value
  5. mdshack14 mdshack14 is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 3:36pm) in reply to The Glutton

    I really don't see a reason to call this ridiculous shove. He could definitely be making a play here or he could have QQ+ thinking that you are getting tired of him 3 betting you and you might call this off light. I think it's way too many chips to risk with just AQ here. Just continue to play your game. I'm sure he'll do this again and double you up.
     
  6. elendil elendil is offline

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    Nov 8th, 2009 (11/8/2009 4:03pm) in reply to mdshack14

    I can find a fold here. Your prolly flipping or cruched with AK. If his solid I don't see him showing A10,AJ to much. You may be able to put KQs in his range, but that seems like a massive spew, espeacially if his been paying attention to you.
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