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Should I have called or folded?

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  1. cwm125 cwm125 is offline

    Pittsburgh, PA
    United States

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    Sep 7th, 2007 (9/7/2007 9:06pm)

    This hand was right before the first break. I almost folded. Bad call???

    pokerstars Game #11930407670: Tournament #59855153, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/09/07 - 20:58:31 (ET)
    Table '59855153 13' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: ollywood79 (2496 in chips)
    Seat 2: fanta23 (7500 in chips)
    Seat 3: GLF13 (3770 in chips)
    Seat 4: Osity (2390 in chips)
    Seat 5: WidowMaker2U (6490 in chips)
    Seat 6: antla917 (3044 in chips)
    Seat 7: goat529 (7245 in chips)
    Seat 8: oaktree550 (5575 in chips)
    Seat 9: cwm125 (5132 in chips)
    fanta23: posts small blind 50
    GLF13: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cwm125 [Qd Qc]
    ollywood79 said, "92"
    Osity: raises 300 to 400
    oaktree550 said, "if i hit i win a big pot"
    WidowMaker2U: folds
    antla917: folds
    goat529: folds
    oaktree550: folds
    cwm125: calls 400
    ollywood79: raises 2096 to 2496 and is all-in
    fanta23: folds
    GLF13: folds
    Osity: calls 1990 and is all-in
    cwm125: calls 2096
    *** FLOP *** [8s 9c Jd]
    *** TURN *** [8s 9c Jd] [5s]
    *** RIVER *** [8s 9c Jd 5s] [6h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cwm125: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)
    ollywood79: shows [Ac As] (a pair of Aces)
    ollywood79 collected 212 from side pot
    Osity: shows [Th Ts] (a pair of Tens)
    ollywood79 said, "ty"
    ollywood79 collected 7320 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7532 Main pot 7320. Side pot 212. | Rake 0
    Board [8s 9c Jd 5s 6h]
    Seat 1: ollywood79 (button) showed [Ac As] and won (7532) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 2: fanta23 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: GLF13 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Osity showed [Th Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 5: WidowMaker2U folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: antla917 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: goat529 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: oaktree550 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: cwm125 showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
  2. samwise113 samwise113 is offline

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    Sep 7th, 2007 (9/7/2007 9:27pm) in reply to cwm125

    i sometimes like the flat call pf with qq, but with the stack sizes here and your position i prefer a raise. As for the call after two all ins its a tough spot. There shortish so their pushing ranges are probably tt-aa and ak and your getting 2 to 1. pokerstove says 41% v this range so unless this range is smaller based on read its a call alright. I suck at MTT'S though so i cud very well be wrong.
  3. Grumpy696 Grumpy696 is offline

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    Sep 8th, 2007 (9/8/2007 3:41am) in reply to cwm125

    I don't like your call of the first raise. When the first raise was for 4x BB I would figure him for a medium pair or something in the A-J range. I would reraise to 1200 to isolate him. In this spot the button would "probably" reraise all-in or at least large enough to tell me I'm in trouble. A third large raise pre-flop would be enough to convince me to get out, but since neither player would have had a "large" raise at that point I would have to call and I end up with the same result as you, but I gain the value "if" my hand would have been good.

    Once you decided to only call the first raise, you appeared weak to medium in the eyes of the button, in which case he could have been trying a squeeze play on the first raiser with a large range of hands. At that point I would call behind the first raiser as I already believe I have the first raiser beat, and I can beat "most" of the buttons range of hands.......

    Hope this helps a little.

    Grumpy
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