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Should I have played this another way ?

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  1. bigstrosfan bigstrosfan is offline

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    Jul 4th, 2010 (7/4/2010 12:17pm)

    pokerstars Game #46324222491: Tournament #288561174, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/07/04 4:59:52 ET
    Table '288561174 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: BregovicGO (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: rayooooo (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: Fil-lill (3370 in chips)
    Seat 4: gfyahole (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: Everest64 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: miketone (1140 in chips)
    Seat 8: shippa67 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: Homer2505 (1500 in chips)
    Fil-lill: posts small blind 10
    gfyahole: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gfyahole [Kc Kh]
    Everest64: folds
    miketone: raises 140 to 160
    shippa67: folds
    Homer2505: folds
    BregovicGO: folds
    rayooooo: calls 160
    Fil-lill: calls 150
    gfyahole: raises 1340 to 1500 and is all-in
    miketone: calls 980 and is all-in
    rayooooo: calls 1330 and is all-in
    Fil-lill: folds
    Uncalled bet (10) returned to gfyahole
    *** FLOP *** [Jh 2c Ts]
    *** TURN *** [Jh 2c Ts] [Tc]
    *** RIVER *** [Jh 2c Ts Tc] [As]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    gfyahole: shows [Kc Kh] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
    rayooooo: shows [Ad Qh] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
    rayooooo collected 700 from side pot
    miketone: shows [Ks Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
    rayooooo collected 3580 from main pot
    miketone finished the tournament in 17th place
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4280 Main pot 3580. Side pot 700. | Rake 0
    Board [Jh 2c Ts Tc As]
    Seat 1: BregovicGO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: rayooooo (button) showed [Ad Qh] and won (4280) with two pair, Aces and Tens
    Seat 3: Fil-lill (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: gfyahole (big blind) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
    Seat 5: Everest64 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: miketone showed [Ks Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
    Seat 8: shippa67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Homer2505 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Jul 4th, 2010 (7/4/2010 4:28pm) in reply to bigstrosfan

    Considering how good you got it in, of course it was fine. With the stupid-big raise and two callers, you can't just stick in a re-raise to 500 or something. The shove is your only option, IMO.

    Would you be posting if the ace didn't hit the river?
     
  3. bigstrosfan bigstrosfan is offline

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    Jul 5th, 2010 (7/5/2010 1:08pm) in reply to grapsfan

    Im just asking if a min re raise pre flop then a post flop shove after no ace hit might have gotten AQ out of the hand
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  4. finewhine finewhine is offline

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    Jul 5th, 2010 (7/5/2010 1:44pm) in reply to bigstrosfan

    Prolly, but you didn't ask that question until now.
  5. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Jul 5th, 2010 (7/5/2010 3:44pm) in reply to bigstrosfan

     
    Originally Posted by bigstrosfan View Post

    Im just asking if a min re raise pre flop then a post flop shove after no ace hit might have gotten AQ out of the hand

    I think this is results-oriented thinking. You got your money in as a 70% favorite to triple up. Why do you WANT the guy with AQ out of the hand?

    In a $6 SNG, when people will pay you off with weak shit (as seen here with AQoff and KJoff)...min-raising is a TERRIBLE leak. Otherwise, you'll sit there making the same "did I do anything wrong?" posts when the flop comes QT3, and someone has QT because you priced them in to calling with a min-raise.
     
  6. finewhine finewhine is offline

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    Jul 5th, 2010 (7/5/2010 4:07pm) in reply to grapsfan

     
    Originally Posted by grapsfan View Post

    I think this is results-oriented thinking. You got your money in as a 70% favorite to triple up. Why do you WANT the guy with AQ out of the hand?

    In a $6 SNG, when people will pay you off with weak shit (as seen here with AQoff and KJoff)...min-raising is a TERRIBLE leak. Otherwise, you'll sit there making the same "did I do anything wrong?" posts when the flop comes QT3, and someone has QT because you priced them in to calling with a min-raise.

    All of that is beside the point. He asked a question, he got my answer, and if he wants to continue being results-oriented, then it's his business.
  7. Driv3Thru Driv3Thru is offline

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    Jul 9th, 2010 (7/9/2010 11:10am) in reply to finewhine

    That's awesome you got all your money in like that. With weirdos early in the tourney raising so big, you can look like a bozo too and pretend you're just shoving for the hell of it.

    Only other option is of course a larger raise in which you've invested ~1/3 of your stack, hoping to get some more money in pre and praying for no aces so you can shove the flop.
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