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Should I make the call here?

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  1. Presnell Presnell is offline

    Fort Mill, SC
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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 2:39pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #17958065114: Super Stack $20K Guarantee (135449238), Table 183 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:27:06 ET - 2010/01/27
    Seat 1: ABes_73 (7,170)
    Seat 2: zolo328 (1,890)
    Seat 3: Gforce786 (7,320)
    Seat 4: pokerGR (7,350)
    Seat 5: Kneppelkopp86 (12,895)
    Seat 6: in2mix (6,375)
    Seat 7: Presnell (6,260)
    Seat 8: freeman33000 (1,265)
    Seat 9: luconlu (11,650)
    in2mix posts the small blind of 50
    Presnell posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Presnell [4s 4d]
    freeman33000 folds
    luconlu calls 100
    ABes_73 calls 100
    zolo328 calls 100
    Gforce786 raises to 700
    pokerGR calls 700
    Kneppelkopp86 has 15 seconds left to act
    Kneppelkopp86 folds
    in2mix has 15 seconds left to act
    in2mix has timed out
    in2mix folds
    in2mix is sitting out
    Presnell ???

    Read on the table:
    Several calling stations. Gforce, the raiser, is a solid player & had not been too active. I didn't have a read on the caller.

    It costs 1/10th of my stack to call & I'm getting almost 3:1 too call. Also, I knew luconlu was going to call b/c he had called almost every raise at this table so far, so I knew that I would actually be getting 4:1 on my money.

    I put the raiser on JJ+, b/c his raise of 7xbb looked like he wanted to limit the number of players which was hard to do at this table.

    Results to follow.
  2. car_t_a car_t_a is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 2:43pm) in reply to Presnell

    Seems like an easy fold to me, risking too much of your stack to set mine... and there's no guarantee that one of the early limpers didn't have a monster and will reraise (unlikely but possible).

    You can easily find better spots than this one.
  3. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 3:00pm) in reply to Presnell

    This is basicly a set mine. I like to mine :) but you just aren't deep enough here. The limpers are whatever but with a called raise you are at best in a race. Let it go and look for a better spot.

    If you want to turn your hand into a bluff you could shove, but the standard warning about bluffing stations applies. Never bluff a station, he just will not fold.

    my 2 cents
  4. Presnell Presnell is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 3:45pm) in reply to saukendar

    Thanks for the feedback guys. I think we are all on the same page, but I love a good set mine and the results made me have doubts.

    Here is the full HH:

    Full Tilt Poker Game #17958065114: Super Stack $20K Guarantee (135449238), Table 183 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:27:06 ET - 2010/01/27

    Seat 1: ABes_73 (7,170)
    Seat 2: zolo328 (1,890)
    Seat 3: Gforce786 (7,320)
    Seat 4: pokerGR (7,350)
    Seat 5: Kneppelkopp86 (12,895)
    Seat 6: in2mix (6,375)
    Seat 7: Presnell (6,260)
    Seat 8: freeman33000 (1,265)
    Seat 9: luconlu (11,650)
    in2mix posts the small blind of 50
    Presnell posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Presnell [4s 4d]
    freeman33000 folds
    luconlu calls 100
    ABes_73 calls 100
    zolo328 calls 100
    Gforce786 raises to 700
    pokerGR calls 700
    Kneppelkopp86 has 15 seconds left to act
    Kneppelkopp86 folds
    in2mix has 15 seconds left to act
    in2mix has timed out
    in2mix folds
    in2mix is sitting out
    Presnell folds
    luconlu calls 600
    ABes_73 folds
    zolo328 has 15 seconds left to act
    zolo328 calls 600
    *** FLOP *** [7h 4h 7c]
    luconlu checks
    zolo328 checks
    Gforce786 bets 1,200
    pokerGR calls 1,200
    luconlu folds
    zolo328 folds
    *** TURN *** [7h 4h 7c] [Tc]
    Gforce786 bets 3,200
    pokerGR has 15 seconds left to act
    pokerGR calls 3,200
    *** RIVER *** [7h 4h 7c Tc] [6d]
    Gforce786 bets 2,220, and is all in
    pokerGR calls 2,220
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Gforce786 shows [Kc Kd] two pair, Kings and Sevens
    pokerGR mucks
    Gforce786 wins the pot (16,290) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 16,290 | Rake 0
    Board: [7h 4h 7c Tc 6d]
    Seat 1: ABes_73 folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: zolo328 folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: Gforce786 showed [Kc Kd] and won (16,290) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
    Seat 4: pokerGR mucked [Ks As] - a pair of Sevens
    Seat 5: Kneppelkopp86 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: in2mix (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: Presnell (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: freeman33000 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: luconlu folded on the Flop

    I wanted to make the call b/c it was almost the perfect set mining spot, but the play at this table was a little too wild.
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