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shove, r/c, or r/f? (15 left in early 11r)

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  1. elusively elusively is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 7:52pm)

    Just wanna make sure I'm playing this hand correctly:

    pokerstars Game #50746850203: Tournament #334010264, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (6000/12000) - 2010/10/07 14:35:50 ET
    Table '334010264 65' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: FerryVDG (165209 in chips)
    Seat 2: mspolly1 (368989 in chips)
    Seat 3: gui.sdutra (763082 in chips)
    Seat 5: elusively (222784 in chips)
    Seat 7: mickjaggger (162613 in chips)
    Seat 8: borisbikovy (593130 in chips)
    Seat 9: PokerikdeB (341248 in chips)
    FerryVDG: posts the ante 1200
    mspolly1: posts the ante 1200
    gui.sdutra: posts the ante 1200
    elusively: posts the ante 1200
    mickjaggger: posts the ante 1200
    borisbikovy: posts the ante 1200
    PokerikdeB: posts the ante 1200
    PokerikdeB: posts small blind 6000
    FerryVDG: posts big blind 12000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to elusively [8s 8c]
    mspolly1: folds
    gui.sdutra: folds
    elusively: ???

    we combined to 2 tables less than 10 minutes before this, but i had been watching since there were 27 left and it seemed like everyone was pretty active/aggro. what's optimal here? r/c, r/f, shove?
  2. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 8:19pm) in reply to elusively

    seems like a raise call barring things don't go haywire
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  3. MarleyGroup MarleyGroup is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 8:48pm) in reply to Steve Murkle

    raise/call seems fine
     
  4. coolhandkev coolhandkev is online now

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 8:51pm) in reply to MarleyGroup

    Agreed R/C best option by far to me. Don't R/F!
  5. OfxAxRevolution OfxAxRevolution is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 11:00pm) in reply to coolhandkev

    how do you guys feel about open shoving?
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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 11:08pm) in reply to OfxAxRevolution

     
    Originally Posted by OfxAxRevolution View Post

    how do you guys feel about open shoving?

    Hands they are calling a shove with they are raising you with anyways if you open, why not let them spew with hands they fold to your jam he said they have been aggressive...
  7. SlayNL SlayNL is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 11:28pm) in reply to coolhandkev

     
    Originally Posted by coolhandkev View Post

    Hands they are calling a shove with they are raising you with anyways if you open, why not let them spew with hands they fold to your jam he said they have been aggressive...

    This
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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 11:29pm) in reply to Steve Murkle

     
    Originally Posted by Steve Murkle View Post

    seems like a raise call barring things don't go haywire

    yep
  9. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Oct 7th, 2010 (10/7/2010 11:37pm) in reply to Charlamaigne

    With all this aggro, why dissuade them by shoving? I want a greater range of hands in there, trying to make moves, to max out my ev.

    Raise 2.5x/call single shove gets my vote unless it gets crazy after you open this one.
  10. donkthorne04 donkthorne04 is offline Disabled account

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    Oct 8th, 2010 (10/8/2010 12:38am) in reply to Steve Murkle

     
    Originally Posted by Steve Murkle View Post

    seems like a raise call barring things don't go haywire

    agree with this
  11. elusively elusively is offline

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    Oct 8th, 2010 (10/8/2010 2:20am) in reply to donkthorne04

    figured i was being kinda results oriented, i just yoked it in and went out 88<JJ

    so the consensus is r/c > shove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r/f

    fwiw, i was never r/f'ing just figured i'd throw it in the options to be fair.

    thx guys
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  12. SlayNL SlayNL is offline

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    Oct 8th, 2010 (10/8/2010 3:05am) in reply to elusively

     
    Originally Posted by elusively View Post

    figured i was being kinda results oriented, i just yoked it in and went out 88<JJ

    so the consensus is r/c > shove >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r/f

    fwiw, i was never r/f'ing just figured i'd throw it in the options to be fair.

    thx guys

    Jammed with almost 20bb? R/C was the way to go to set mine.

    My 2 cents
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    Oct 8th, 2010 (10/8/2010 4:33am) in reply to elusively

    raise and (with no reads) call, fold, fold, call, fold, call
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    Oct 8th, 2010 (10/8/2010 5:04am) in reply to Gags30

    ICM tho. Ship.
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