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Shoving range against Maniac on bubble in Double Shootout?

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  1. scots_chris scots_chris is offline

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    May 16th, 2007 (5/16/2007 10:39pm)

    Last night I was playing an $11.70 double shootout for 2 guaranteed Sunday Millions seats on stars and in my first shorthanded table (of 4 players) I crushed it in about five minutes then proceeded to wait an hour for the final table to roll around. Once it got off I played my usual aggressive conservative game until the blinds increased and we lost one or two players, I managed to chip up and by the time we reached the payout-bubble (2 seats, 2 cashes) I was 3rd in chips and very comfortable. The bubble bursts and we lose the last short stack and 3-handed we're all pretty even in chipstacks, then one guy catches a card against me and another in two consecutive hands to get a 1.8:1:1 chip lead.

    This is when it got crazy.

    Chip-leader raises absolutely every hand preflop. If he's on the button, he's raising 6bb (which at this stage was considerable), if he's in the sb, he's shoving, if he's in the bb (and I was sb), if I call, he shoves, if I raise, he shoves, so I was forced to laydown marginal hands and my playable hands got reshoved and I was faced with several tough decisions.

    His range is obviously ATC for the raise/shove, there's no way he's hitting premiums every hand, we know this for a fact - hands that I could have made a stand with:
    - A5 suited
    - J7 suited
    - K9 offsuit

    Do you reshove his raise or call his all-in with any of these hands on the bubble?

    It was getting very frustrating and as it wore on, myself and the other guy were facing something like a 6:1:1 chip deficet, finally I pick up AJ offsuit in the bb, he raises, I shove, he instacalls with KK and I don't improve to lose the seat, picking up a mere $35 in change.

    Advice sought, much appreciated.
  2. Slow Cheetah Slow Cheetah is offline

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    May 16th, 2007 (5/16/2007 11:18pm) in reply to scots_chris

    I think you're looking at this wrong. You said you and the other guy were facing a 6 to one deficet. You are not playing for first, who care's if it's a ten to one deficet. The only stack that concerns you should be the "other" guy. If you have 1 more chip than him just make sure somebody is always attacking his blinds. And from your description the villian was.

    If you are the short stack then you should be pushing when you can be the first to enter the pot no matter what your cards are. I dont think you should ever be smooth calling when in the small blind. It should be either push or fold.
  3. scots_chris scots_chris is offline

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    May 16th, 2007 (5/16/2007 11:35pm) in reply to Slow Cheetah

    I know this was going to be raised and I forgot to mention it in the OP, but he was just folding every hand. Any confrontation that was going to brew was between me and the big stack because the other guy was just constantly folding, when I was on the button with a hand like 9-10 offsuit, I'd raise to steal the blinds and run into the bigstack on the sb who'd shove, the other shorty always instafolded to any raise and due to the positioning I never got the chance to hit any flops against him (he always folded his sb to my bb), one time he shoved after maniac folded (jesus he must have had something REALLY bad) and I had junk and had to fold, but the shorty probably had a monster that time to push like he did after how he'd been playing.

    So yes, shove or fold is the strategy, which of those hands would you have shoved with then? Given that the aggressor shows no fear with ATC?
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  4. Slow Cheetah Slow Cheetah is offline

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    May 17th, 2007 (5/17/2007 11:02pm) in reply to scots_chris

    did you say you had more or less chips than the other short stack?
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