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Sick call or just plain horrible/absurd/rediculous,etc,etc....

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  1. Boots1170 Boots1170 is offline

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 2:27pm)

    So Im playing 2/5 at the taj in ac this past weekend. I have been at the table for about 30 mins (in the 2 seat and a dude sits down in the 1 seat about 15 mins after I do). This guy immediately is involved in almost every hand, and runs a couple sick bluffs with 9-4 o and then one against me:

    I raise to 25 with AKo and he calls.. flop is 883, he checks and I bet 30 and he calls... turn is a 9 and he checks and I bet 50 and he raises to 150, i think I prolly have the best hand but will wait for a better spot in case, and he flips up KJ, sigh..

    The this hand comes up: Stacks- Me:750, villian:465ish.
    He limps and I raise to 30 with 4-6 o everyone folds and he calls (I know this is a bit spewy but I was kinda bored and felt like getting in a pot with him).. Flop is 3-5-J (2diamonds) and he checks, and I fire 40 and he calls.. turn is 5, he checks and I fire 125 (hoping he gets off his flush draw, I rulle out a j b/c I know he would have raised the flop) but then he calls.. river Qs and he checks fairly quickly and now I think I have to follow through because he must have a busted flush draw in which case I can take it down so I bet 270 (all that he has left and now he tanks it making me think fuck he might just have like 77 or 88 and make a sick call), and he eventually trhows the rest of his chips in and holds his hand over the muck ready to release his cards and I say good call, but he still doest show his hand so finally I flip up my 46 and he then shows A2 off.....WTFFFFFFF are u serious, i mean if I have A4 there I win.

    So 2 questions:

    1. Is that a good call?
    2. How dirty would it have been if I said "I got a jack", since he was ready to muck his hand anyways, and I know he would have tossed them had I said that?? I was not going to do this but it got me thinking that had I said that even jokingly he would have immediately tossed his hand into the muck and I would have scooped.

    Thoughts????
  2. Boots1170 Boots1170 is offline

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 2:29pm) in reply to Boots1170

    sorry I mean if I show up with a6 (not a4) or better I win
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  3. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 2:34pm) in reply to Boots1170

    Def a ridiculously absurd/spewy call, but tbh the way the board ran out your line looks like the nuts or air...
     
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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 2:48pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    Def a ridiculously absurd/spewy call, but tbh the way the board ran out your line looks like the nuts or air...

    So you throw in 270 with the off chance that it's air? This guy must have had a physical tell on you or something dude, that is just sick.
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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 3:22pm) in reply to Boots1170

    To answer your first question....
    I believe you played this as if you had a medium pocket pair (at least), making his call pretty bizarre (read "horrible"). One thing you might have considered was raising him to nearly all-in (i.e. just leaving him with $30-$40 dollars) as pushing your opponent all-in on the river so often looks like a bluff (maybe this isn't true live but I've been playing for about 5 hours straight on Bodog). Basically though, I think you ran a great bluff and apparently had a pretty solid read on your opponent. I'm reminded of the most basic tenet of bluffology however, which is that you should only run a bluff when you're quite confident that your opponent will fold. This guy sounds like he might have suffered an injury to the "fold" part of his brain, so I'd stay away from running bluffs against him in the future.

    To answer your second question, it would have been amazingly dirty.

    I say find this guy again and just trap him every single chance you get.
  6. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 4:07pm) in reply to bluffslv

     
    Originally Posted by bluffslv View Post

     
    Originally Posted by I Spew Chips View Post

    Def a ridiculously absurd/spewy call, but tbh the way the board ran out your line looks like the nuts or air...

    So you throw in 270 with the off chance that it's air? This guy must have had a physical tell on you or something dude, that is just sick.

    Did I say I would call it? And yeah, that seems about right since thats exactly what he did. Just a maniac who wants to make hero calls. And lol @ physical tells
     
  7. elusively elusively is offline

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 4:52pm) in reply to I Spew Chips

    This actually seems completely standard...

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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 5:14pm) in reply to FiveSwords

     
    Originally Posted by FiveSwords View Post

    To answer your first question....
    I believe you played this as if you had a medium pocket pair (at least), making his call pretty bizarre (read "horrible"). One thing you might have considered was raising him to nearly all-in (i.e. just leaving him with $30-$40 dollars) as pushing your opponent all-in on the river so often looks like a bluff (maybe this isn't true live but I've been playing for about 5 hours straight on Bodog). Basically though, I think you ran a great bluff and apparently had a pretty solid read on your opponent. I'm reminded of the most basic tenet of bluffology however, which is that you should only run a bluff when you're quite confident that your opponent will fold. This guy sounds like he might have suffered an injury to the "fold" part of his brain, so I'd stay away from running bluffs against him in the future.

    To answer your second question, it would have been amazingly dirty.

    I say find this guy again and just trap him every single chance you get.

    I think FiveSwords has it right here... to run a successful bluff you need to know that your opponent actually knows how to fold. My guess is this guy was either very wealthy and bored and sat down to throw some money around for kicks, or was totally clueless and just got very, very lucky. Either way, he wasn't folding to anything when he had an ace in his hand. Worth time to figure out which before you play him again.
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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 5:19pm) in reply to Boots1170

     
    Originally Posted by Boots1170 View Post

    sorry I mean if I show up with a6 (not a4) or better I win

    Try again. AK there and you win.
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    May 4th, 2009 (5/4/2009 5:48pm) in reply to Boots1170

     
    Originally Posted by Boots1170 View Post

    So Im playing 2/5 at the taj in ac this past weekend. I have been at the table for about 30 mins (in the 2 seat and a dude sits down in the 1 seat about 15 mins after I do). This guy immediately is involved in almost every hand, and runs a couple sick bluffs with 9-4 o and then one against me:

    I raise to 25 with AKo and he calls.. flop is 883, he checks and I bet 30 and he calls... turn is a 9 and he checks and I bet 50 and he raises to 150, i think I prolly have the best hand but will wait for a better spot in case, and he flips up KJ, sigh..

    The this hand comes up: Stacks- Me:750, villian:465ish.
    He limps and I raise to 30 with 4-6 o everyone folds and he calls (I know this is a bit spewy but I was kinda bored and felt like getting in a pot with him).. Flop is 3-5-J (2diamonds) and he checks, and I fire 40 and he calls.. turn is 5, he checks and I fire 125 (hoping he gets off his flush draw, I rulle out a j b/c I know he would have raised the flop) but then he calls.. river Qs and he checks fairly quickly and now I think I have to follow through because he must have a busted flush draw in which case I can take it down so I bet 270 (all that he has left and now he tanks it making me think fuck he might just have like 77 or 88 and make a sick call), and he eventually trhows the rest of his chips in and holds his hand over the muck ready to release his cards and I say good call, but he still doest show his hand so finally I flip up my 46 and he then shows A2 off.....WTFFFFFFF are u serious, i mean if I have A4 there I win.

    So 2 questions:

    1. Is that a good call?
    2. How dirty would it have been if I said "I got a jack", since he was ready to muck his hand anyways, and I know he would have tossed them had I said that?? I was not going to do this but it got me thinking that had I said that even jokingly he would have immediately tossed his hand into the muck and I would have scooped.

    Thoughts????

    wuss
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