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  1. thats all

    pokerstars Game #8626033901: Tournament #42680512, $500+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (1200/2400) - 2007/02/25 - 20:34:02 (ET)
    Table '42680512 301' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: PokerSavage1 (128380 in chips)
    Seat 2: CAtlSlu (33875 in chips)
    Seat 3: Annette_15 (134562 in chips)
    Seat 4: AcsCrshMchin (170865 in chips)
    Seat 5: wrxtasy_03 (64683 in chips)
    Seat 6: mm-nh (23636 in chips)
    Seat 7: Neebo (127327 in chips)
    Seat 8: MTN1018 (36780 in chips)
    Seat 9: dmmikkel (108314 in chips)
    PokerSavage1: posts the ante 120
    CAtlSlu: posts the ante 120
    Annette_15: posts the ante 120
    AcsCrshMchin: posts the ante 120
    wrxtasy_03: posts the ante 120
    mm-nh: posts the ante 120
    Neebo: posts the ante 120
    MTN1018: posts the ante 120
    dmmikkel: posts the ante 120
    AcsCrshMchin: posts small blind 1200
    wrxtasy_03: posts big blind 2400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    mm-nh: folds
    Neebo: folds
    MTN1018: folds
    dmmikkel: folds
    PokerSavage1: folds
    CAtlSlu: folds
    Annette_15: raises 4400 to 6800
    AcsCrshMchin: calls 5600
    wrxtasy_03: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Th 3c 6d]
    AcsCrshMchin: checks
    Annette_15: bets 9800
    AcsCrshMchin: calls 9800
    *** TURN *** [Th 3c 6d] [4h]
    AcsCrshMchin: bets 22222
    Annette_15: raises 95620 to 117842 and is all-in
    AcsCrshMchin: calls 95620
    *** RIVER *** [Th 3c 6d 4h] [Ks]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    AcsCrshMchin: shows [Tc 9h] (a pair of Tens)
    Annette_15: shows [5d 9s] (high card King)
    AcsCrshMchin collected 272364 from pot
    Neebo said, "wow"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 272364 | Rake 0
    Board [Th 3c 6d 4h Ks]
    Seat 1: PokerSavage1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: CAtlSlu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Annette_15 (button) showed [5d 9s] and lost with high card King
    Seat 4: AcsCrshMchin (small blind) showed [Tc 9h] and won (272364) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 5: wrxtasy_03 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: mm-nh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Neebo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: MTN1018 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: dmmikkel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. kind of standard if you put annette raising with a ride range and any two cards on the button. He had a read and stuck with it. Have him calling with 3rd or 4th pair and ill call it sick, otherwise just another hand
     
  3. putting in 130k on that board w/ T9 is anything from just another hand
  4. especially when they are playing for 250,000 i think both made sick plays she has guts that is why she is so successful
    Thread Starter
  5. Near the bubble too so her range is huuuuuge.
  6. more like matusow blowup puts annette out
  7. Just a quick observation - not about the hand, but about the type of responses these threads seem to get. Had the result of this hand been that Annette hit her straight, there would be about 40 posts here, most which would contain some version of "Annette pwns" in the text.

    And many would say that this guy was an idiot for calling with only a 9 kicker and that he deserved to lose for making such a bad play.

    I just think these are a lot more fun to read when people stop kissing the top player's asses and actually have honest discussions on their play.
     
  8. ^someone must have missed there afternoon nap......
  9. I didnt see anyone kissing anybody's ass in the thread. Most said his call wasn't bad considering they were on the bubble and her range is so huge in the cutoff.
  10. i was there to watch it----obviously, annette made a mistake tried to bluff him since he was a tight, strong player ( from my opinion ) and he got around double of her chips---so.... this is wat she get from try to steal the pot ( when the guy obviously raised already )
  11. i posted it not to kiss ass i don't even know the girl. I just think it was an intresting hand from both spectrums.

    She had just won a huge pot before this hand and the other player was dominating the table. It just shows they both played the player he felt she had air and she was semi bluffing. i thought when playing for 250,000 it took guts on both parts to make the raise (anette) and the call (other guy)
    Thread Starter
  12. I'm a big fan of annettes and I think she is really awesome.

    The fact that she is very well known for making fearless plays is going to have some other players call her down if for no other reason than the range of hands that she plays for all her chips.

    Just wait till Helmuth gets ahold of her lol that should be good when she busts him out of tourny on one of those plays !
  13. If you think Annette is better than Hellmuth you need to have your head examined

    in addition

    This is not a sick call
    "Heart" or "guts" do not win poker tournaments, nor do Matusow like blowups
  14. who said anything about being better than Hellmuth ????????????????????

    I'm just looking forward to the endless tirade that would surely follow his busting out on a sick beat.

    Always priceless.

    "in addition m@dmonk"

    ty for your little lecture on "Heart"or "guts" do not win poker tournaments.

    that was truly inspiring
  15. Could you show me where getting into a pissing match with a bigger stack is a good idea again? If you want to slob her proverbial knob, fine. But this is poker discussion, not why I have an online crush on some chick I'll never meet who happened to make a horrible, -ev play forum

    We're all glad you took the time to relate how "awesome" Annette is and how she would "school" Hellmuth. Thanks for enriching all of our poker lives.
  16. standard call puts annette out
  17. are you really serious??????

    m@dmonk you sure do like to live up to the mad part of your screen name.

    why dont' you try taking things in the context of what is written as well as the spirit in which it is stated and read another poker book or something to pay tribute to Mr. Hellmuth if you love the guy so much. You obviously seem to have a hard on for him.

    where in any part of any of my statements that you are so seriously addressing is the "quality" of the play mentioned or a comparison of Annette to Hellmuth???????

    I do think annette is a fantastic player. She is a nice kid and has gotten to where she is because she knows how to take calculated chances and put pressure on other players accordingly. I certainly don't need to defend the play which I didn't in any way. Nor did I mention any reference to "schooling" Helmuth.

    I just like the standard Hellmuth tirades after he goes out of a tourney. Heck who doesn't ????

    so go enrich your poker life anywhere you like . I hear Phill's wife is taking new clients!
  18. Actually I think Hellmuth is an ass, something you seem to have in common with him. If you don't have anything to offer to this thread, why do you continue posting in it? Your time would be better spent trying to pass 5th grade english or improving your 9% roi, instead of posting fanboy crap.
  19. If u think thats a standard call, ur a callingstation. That pot was for 2nd place with 400! ppl left on the BUBBLE
  20. You're a great player but in this instance you're still wrong. Congrats on firing 3 bullets with the worst hand into a bigger chipstack, Matusow would be proud.
  21. Pretty sure I would have called her with 2's there, I watched the whole hand and her betting made no sense and screamed a draw. Thank you for your time...flame away since we all kiss annette's ass anyways.
     
  22. Annette,

    don't waste your time with this monk punk

    just look how bent out of shape he got in this thread. It's like having the professor scolding me for having a sense of humor.

    I"m sure you will agree we will all be looking for great things from m@dmonk in the future. :-) LMAO
  23. The general consensus seems to be bad play on her part, feel free to read the thread again.
  24. Come on Annette, I respect your play entirely. However, it just seems to me that you tried selling something that just wasnt there. While I wasnt there to experience first hand your tables dynamics, Im pretty sure its safe to assume that youve been raising quite alot. After all, it is bubble time, and youre a player that has shown through word and action that you play for the win.

    But at the end of the day, Im still a micro player, and youre still the #1 ranked player on p5's.

    He finished 43, btw.
     
  25. i was joking a bit, but the bubble, and your rep for being very aggro make this a pretty easy call. you button raise with any 2. your opp obv wants to induce a bluff by letting you bet the flop. he value bets the turn and makes a pretty easy call of your RRAI.

    No disrespect. I like your Opp's line here.
  26. degenrat,

    I'm getting what you are saying and somewhat agree as per my 1st post in this thread. Her wide range of hands that she plays can almost make any preflop raise a bit suspicious to many players. Especially around the bubble. That being said she doesn't exactly make a habbit of pushing with 72 either.

    I have to question the player calling her down at least a little. While annette plays a wide range of hands his 10 9 isn't exactly a strong holding. Even on that flop. Lets face it. J10, Q10, K10, A10, not to mention AA, KK,QQ, and JJ ,are reasonable holdings for annette,s play. There are others as well but she isn't likely to fire with a made set or 2 pair on the flop.

    When she pushed against his bet on the turn his call looks like he was pretty much married to his hand here. He won with his better hand but annette was the aggressor from the start and never let off the gas pedal so how does he have any feel for where he is in this hand? He never fires back preflop or on the flop so exactly what is he going by for a read?
  27. He never fires back preflop on on the flop so exactly what is he going by for a read?

    past experience, understanding her style, etc.

    Basically i am saying her opp knew she was playing ATC here(which she was). Knew she was trying to abuse the bubble(she was). He decided if he hit a peice of the hand(TP qualifies), he would let her stack off if given the oppurtunity. Again, i was stretching a bit when i said standard, but i don't think this call is all that sick.

    And Annette's post here shows imo why. She was pressuring here for pressure's sake because he had to fold all but the strongest hands. Her Opponent knew she would play this way and reversed it. multi level thinking, not sick, not standard, poker. He played poker. I am not saying he is better than annette. I am not advocating a call all the time, or annette pushign all the time being bad. All i am sayiong is the guy outplayed her in this particular hand this one time.

    And the fact that he had a bigger stack imo DEF factored in. She couldn't send him home. if he was wrong, he would be short, but he would be in.
  28. Raising the button with 5 9 offsuit against blinds who obviously dont fold is usually a good idea.
  29. worst post ever. simplifying this hand to her holdings is rediculous.
  30. degen, I get your point here, but he did say "against blinds that don't fold". So he was not simplifying it too only her holdings.

    He also makes a very valid point. I think the hallmark of good players who play a similar style as Annette (laggy for lack of a more descriptive term) is reading a situation like this and knowing when it's ok to NOT raise the button.

    And i know I'm not ranked so I'm not entitled to an opinion, but I think this raise is too loose.