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Sick Fold, was it the right one?

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  1. jacksfull77 jacksfull77 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 8:10pm)

    Ok here's how it went down:

    pokerstars Game #44388225828: Tournament #274900531, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2010/05/20 20:04:41 ET
    Table '274900531 7' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: Runing Wolf (74509 in chips)
    Seat 3: toretensr (24633 in chips)
    Seat 4: jacksfull77 (78799 in chips)
    Seat 5: p3rc4 (64319 in chips)
    Seat 6: Gedis777 (19076 in chips)
    Seat 8: Schurli D. (37708 in chips)
    Runing Wolf: posts the ante 300
    toretensr: posts the ante 300
    jacksfull77: posts the ante 300
    p3rc4: posts the ante 300
    Gedis777: posts the ante 300
    Schurli D.: posts the ante 300
    Runing Wolf: posts small blind 1500
    toretensr: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jacksfull77 [Ah Js]
    jacksfull77: raises 9000 to 12000
    p3rc4: folds
    Gedis777: folds
    Schurli D.: folds
    Runing Wolf: calls 10500
    toretensr has timed out
    toretensr: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Td 6d Ac]
    toretensr is sitting out
    toretensr has returned
    Runing Wolf: bets 62209 and is all-in
    jacksfull77 has timed out
    jacksfull77: folds
    Uncalled bet (62209) returned to Runing Wolf
    jacksfull77 is sitting out
    jacksfull77 has returned
    Runing Wolf collected 28800 from pot
    Runing Wolf: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 28800 | Rake 0
    Board [Td 6d Ac]
    Seat 2: Runing Wolf (small blind) collected (28800)
    Seat 3: toretensr (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: jacksfull77 folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: p3rc4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Gedis777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Schurli D. (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    This is basically for all my chips, it was 50/50 to me that i was ahead, I think he could easily have had 10 10, 66, or even a10, i decided to pass and pick a better spot, makes me frustrated, but was it a smart move?
  2. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 8:17pm) in reply to jacksfull77

    I don't like your bet size pre and I don't like your fold on the flop. He's losing tons of value if he hits that flop big and shoves it. I think draws are a pretty big part of his range. If you're playing to win, you're not passing up on this spot, especially with about 25k already in the pot.
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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 8:23pm) in reply to thefuture021

    [] sick fold
  4. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 8:27pm) in reply to rainmanrcp

     
    Originally Posted by rainmanrcp View Post

    [x] sick fold

    FYP

    I mean you hardly see these folds anymore. Real poker ITT. All you see these days is shove after shove, over-call after another. When you're beat, you're beat.
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  5. ijstshatonu ijstshatonu is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 8:31pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    Obviously your pre sizing sucks, but I think fold flop is OK. I would like check how the villain has been playing previous hands if hes been a maniac I'd call, but if hes been decently tight then fold mite have been good.
  6. jacksfull77 jacksfull77 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:02pm) in reply to ijstshatonu

    Well, turns out I made the right decision there. I ended up moving on and getting to the final table, where I ran pretty good and finished 3'rd for like 200 bucks (lost with the sb shoving on my a6 suited, i snap called as he's been doing this each time, he showed a4 and hit a 4 of course). But turns out the guy who made that shove also made the final table, and after he got knocked out (6th place i think) he told me that he had A6 on that a10 6 flop. So all and all I made the right decision, just had a bad feeling about his move there, and I also knew I could pick a better spot. Thanks for the feedback from everyone anyway, and good luck out there!
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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:13pm) in reply to jacksfull77

     
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    FYP

    I mean you hardly see these folds anymore. Real poker ITT. All you see these days is shove after shove, over-call after another. When you're beat, you're beat.

    The thing is you might not be beat. It is called the stop and go. You have a pocket pair and call, but then even if you miss, you go all in trying to represent the ace. I see top pros make this play all the time so I think you have to call here.
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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:18pm) in reply to fly44

     
    Originally Posted by fly44 View Post

    The thing is you might not be beat. It is called the stop and go. You have a pocket pair and call, but then even if you miss, you go all in trying to represent the ace. I see top pros make this play all the time so I think you have to call here.

    I'm familiar with this sufisticated play, but can you really excpect someone doing it in $3 game. I mean you make solid posts from time to time but here you´re wrong 95% of the time.
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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:32pm) in reply to jacksfull77

     
    Originally Posted by jacksfull77 View Post

    Well, turns out I made the right decision there. I ended up moving on and getting to the final table, where ran pretty good and finished 3'rd for like 200 bucks (lost with the sb shoving on my a6 suited, i snap called as he's been doing this each time, he showed a4 and hit a 4 of course). But turns out the guy who made that shove malso made the final table, and after he got knocked out (6th place i think) he told me that he had A6 on that a10 6 flop. So all and I made the right decision, just had a bad feeling about his move there, and I also knew I could pick a better spot. Thanks for the feedback from everyone anyway, and good luck out there.

  10. jacksfull77 jacksfull77 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:46pm) in reply to thefuture021

     
    Originally Posted by thefuture021 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by jacksfull77 View Post


    Well, turns out I made the right decision there. I ended up moving on and getting to the final table, where ran pretty good and finished 3'rd for like 200 bucks (lost with the sb shoving on my a6 suited, i snap called as he's been doing this each time, he showed a4 and hit a 4 of course). But turns out the guy who made that shove malso made the final table, and after he got knocked out (6th place i think) he told me that he had A6 on that a10 6 flop. So all and I made the right decision, just had a bad feeling about his move there, and I also knew I could pick a better spot. Thanks for the feedback from everyone anyway, and good luck out there.

    Hey, that was awesome future lol, thanks for that post (I actually high fived it, haha)
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