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  1. So, i´ve been workin on a ship for almost 4 yrs now (1 month at work / 1 month on vacations) and it´s a very well paid job. However that´s the only good thing about it since i hate everything else (especially being away from home, gf, friends, family and poker 6 months per year).
    I also started playing poker 4 yrs ago, slowly grinding my 50$ br. I binked my first 5-figure this summer and i´ve been on a very nice heater since then playing mid and small stakes mtts. I´m aware that i´ve been running good but i also feel that my game is constantly improving (ty Pfives and Crunners).
    So, i´ve been thinking if i should quit my well paid but unfullfilling and stressfull job and try to pursue my dream of playing poker for a living since i feel that i have what it takes (br mgmt, tilt control, passion for the game and desire to keep learning and fix my leaks).
    I have money on the side to live for 1 year but i´m a little afraid that Lady Variance picks up on me since it would be hard to find another job in this shitty country i live in.
    I´ve been wondering too how much volume would be necessary so that i can cashout around 1k per month with an abi of 25$.
    Also, would like to know if someone is using jennifear´s cashout system.
    Here´s my opr if u guys wanna take a look:
    http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...5565F.html?t=2
    So WWYD, if u were in my shoes????Pursue the dream or be miseral 1/2 of the year?

    Every input appreciated.
     
  2. nice bink in that minefield
  3. Just ask yourself, do I want to be stressed out and miserable half the year, or all year? Easy decision.
     
  4. There's no harm in playing and working. The decision to go pro should come naturally. If you have reservations, then more than likely it's not the right time. Work on your game and get wins under your belt while you continue to make a decent living. When the time is right, you'll know.
     
  5. lol...14k of your total 17k profit came from ONE score...in the biggest luckdonkfest on stars.

    not saying you don't have potential to be a good player but you don't have anywhere close to the results to even consider leaving your job.
     
  6. im sure there are other jobs u can take that may pay slightly a bit less but dont make u hate ur life.

    if u really really really hate ur job, poker shuddnt even be the reason ur quitting, it shud be because u hate ur fkin job
  7. I know a lot of pros that would gladly take a steady income over poker. You don't sound sold, and your scores are nowhere near where you need to be to support yourself.
  8. Maybe the right decision is neither. If your job is miserable, maybe its time to try and find a new one. I don't know how the economy is there, but most places, if your persistent, you can find something.

    Being miserable 50% of the time isn't good, but neither is going pro before it makes sense.
  9. You really only need 1k a month to live. Mbn. Honestly, I wouldn't quit a good job to play poker unless I knew I was going to make at least 3x or more than I currently make.
  10. If you have to ask the resounding answer is NO.

    Seriously, make some real money at the game first before you do something dumb like quit your well paying job. If you hate your job that much look for something else. Poker makes a lot of people miserable and it's not for everyone.
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  11. Keep the job and look for a different job when you are home for a month. Basically keep a job, because it's very difficult to find a DECENT job. IF you keep crushing like this for a year, then step back and see what is best for you at that time.
  12. These can't be the only two options -- neither sound very good. The good thing is you have 6 months out of the year to look for a different job, not like most where the weekend is the only free time you have. Find somewhere in between and expand your options.
     
  13. Making 1k/month at mtts is pretty easy. When I had this decision at the end of last year I really hated my job, it was really unhealthy for me to be working there, but I had some solid results. Your 2010 looks like my 2009 lol. Really having to make 1k and you have a year's living expenses saved up means a very small chance of failure. However if u fail I'm assuming it's tough to get a job in portugal like it is here in the U.S. I would say keep working/playing for another 6 months and see how it goes. You never stated your bankroll that is important to know.
     
  14. i can tell you if you quit your job to play poker then you will automaticily have more pressure when your playing.Maybe not right off the bat but soon when things ain't going so hot.Aleast now you have a way to live if you don't win.I love poker and i want to go pro soon too but right now my business is what pays my bills and no matter how much i hate it i would never give it up for something that's not given.

    Nothing in poker is gtd but a good job with money coming in every week is the shit for me right now because i'm not so much stressed to win.If i do it just goes towards my br because my bills are paid from my job.
  15.  
    Originally Posted by deuceseven View Post

    Making 1k/month at mtts is pretty easy.

    True, making 1k a month is easy. So yes, theoretically you could probably live off of poker if you don't mind living well below the poverty line. Are you guys 18 years old or something? Grinding poker full-time for 12k a year sounds absolutely tedious. You could probably make double that if you were to become a manager at McDonalds.
    Edited By: apology7 Dec 16th, 2010 at 05:44 PM
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  16.  
    Originally Posted by apology7 View Post

    If you have to ask the resounding answer is NO.

    Seriously, make some real money at the game first before you do something dumb like quit your well paying job. If you hate your job that much look for something else. Poker makes a lot of people miserable and it's not for everyone.

    +1 on this.... poker is tough tough game.... best to keep job and continue building ur roll as have been doing
    also on a side if job sucks try find another one but hold onto one you have while doing that
     
  17. Ty all guys, appreciated your honesty.

    First of all, i know that the results i have had lately are from a very small sample and def not trying to say that im a baller now, because i know i´m not!
    I also know that sounds stupid to quit a well paid job nowadays because i feel stupid when i say it too!
    However, i don´t need a lotta money to be happy. And that´s all i care about, my happiness levels. And i believe that my happiness levels would increase a lot if i could make enough money to have a normal life playing poker, in relation to making a lotta money working on the fckn ship.
    I have to agree w most of u guys that is too early to decide to go pro or not, but since i have money on the side, maybe option C could be quit job, try poker for like 4 months and find another job if it goes bad?

    Oh, and i do have family and friends to talk about this, but they don´t even know what variance means...
     
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  18.  
    Originally Posted by Nate Avenson View Post

    Just ask yourself, do I want to be stressed out and miserable half the year, or all year? Easy decision.

    haha, gem. vn nate. I can vouch for jennifears cash out system, I know a bunch of people that use it. its conservative, by design. When going broke means the end of your job you'll appreciate the conservative approach.

    ***edit***
    I think also you'll need to consider your financial status, not just how much you were making. How are your budget, saving, credit, healthcare going to be affected? Can you afford to break even for a year? do you have the skills\resume' to go and get a job like you have now after having no work history for a few years? There are lots of questions, I think ultimately it comes down to how you can make yourself happy without giving up on being "responsible." good luck!
    Edited By: dgillis Dec 16th, 2010 at 06:46 PM
     
  19. Sup bro, don't quit your day job!

    How about you REALLY commit to playing on just one of the off months you have? Playing 5 donkaments a day 4 days a week like you'll probably end up doing won't get you anywhere. You don't even have an idea what it's like to put in as much volume as you need to. Dedicate a bunch of hours of your day to poker like I don't. Maybe start from there and see how you feel after a while. Also, work on your English. And those apostrophes are just plain weird.

    Wanna get thrashed on play money HU by the way?
  20.  
    Originally Posted by ShyGuy03533 View Post

    if u really really really hate ur job, poker shuddnt even be the reason ur quitting, it shud be because u hate ur fkin job

    i've read this 5 times and still don't understand it.
  21.  
    Originally Posted by FBorges View Post

    Ty all guys, appreciated your honesty.

    First of all, i know that the results i have had lately are from a very small sample and def not trying to say that im a baller now, because i know i´m not!
    I also know that sounds stupid to quit a well paid job nowadays because i feel stupid when i say it too!
    However, i don´t need a lotta money to be happy. And that´s all i care about, my happiness levels. And i believe that my happiness levels would increase a lot if i could make enough money to have a normal life playing poker, in relation to making a lotta money working on the fckn ship.
    I have to agree w most of u guys that is too early to decide to go pro or not, but since i have money on the side, maybe option C could be quit job, try poker for like 4 months and find another job if it goes bad?

    Oh, and i do have family and friends to talk about this, but they don´t even know what variance means...

    its pretty obvious that you really want to do this and you came here to be told to go for it. well i'm gonna say go for it. if you don't need a lot of money to be happy, then wgaf!?!? just be happy. the best advice i can give is just to be 100% honest with yourself. use resources like training sites and forums and make sure you are always improving. if after some amount of time you're not cutting it you need to be able to recognize that, accept it, and move on. but for real, as cliched as it is, you really do only live once. if you dont do it now, you never will.

    also, while the sunday 1/4 mill might be a huge donkfest, FT'ing a 30,000+ field is an incredible accomplishment, and you've obviously got some game. best of luck!
     
  22. Originally Posted by ShyGuy03533
    if u really really really hate ur job, poker shuddnt even be the reason ur quitting, it shud be because u hate ur fkin job

    "i've read this 5 times and still don't understand it.

    he should quit if he hates his job. He shouldnt quit his job because of poker.
    Edited By: Red 5 Black 2 Dec 16th, 2010 at 08:06 PM
  23. Keep the job till you have more cash saved up.
  24. Sounds like you wanna do it, so do it. You're asking a bunch of degens though ;)
  25.  
    Originally Posted by FBorges View Post

    So, i´ve been workin on a ship for almost 4 yrs now (1 month at work / 1 month on vacations) and it´s a very well paid job. However that´s the only good thing about it since i hate everything else (especially being away from home, gf, friends, family and poker 6 months per year).
    I also started playing poker 4 yrs ago, slowly grinding my 50$ br. I binked my first 5-figure this summer and i´ve been on a very nice heater since then playing mid and small stakes mtts. I´m aware that i´ve been running good but i also feel that my game is constantly improving (ty Pfives and Crunners).
    So, i´ve been thinking if i should quit my well paid but unfullfilling and stressfull job and try to pursue my dream of playing poker for a living since i feel that i have what it takes (br mgmt, tilt control, passion for the game and desire to keep learning and fix my leaks).
    I have money on the side to live for 1 year but i´m a little afraid that Lady Variance picks up on me since it would be hard to find another job in this shitty country i live in.
    I´ve been wondering too how much volume would be necessary so that i can cashout around 1k per month with an abi of 25$.
    Also, would like to know if someone is using jennifear´s cashout system.
    Here´s my opr if u guys wanna take a look:
    http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...5565F.html?t=2
    So WWYD, if u were in my shoes????Pursue the dream or be miseral 1/2 of the year?

    Every input appreciated.

    EZ Answer... If you are confident that you can get your job back on the ship at a moments notice, or if you are confident that you can get another job period then there is only one thing to do. FOLLOW YOUR DREAM. IF you fail you just start over, if you succeed you never look back.

    You will never know unless you try, pretty ez answer IMO.
  26. I would keep the job and only be miserable 1/2 the year as Nate suggested.
     
  27. Steady income > poker income, unless you've been consistant making well over $100K a year in poker (remember you still have to pay taxes).
    poker stress > your job stress.
  28.  
    Originally Posted by dust View Post

    poker stress > your job stress.

    i really hate when people say this all the time. i understand that poker can be stressful, but i can guarantee it's not the most stressful job out there. this truly is job dependent. now if we're talking about stress of working on a cruise ship vs. stress of poker, then poker wins anyday.
  29. Just do what feels right. I think the quit your job (hopefully with severance pay) and look for a new one is the best option. If you happen to bink some big tourneys, then you can reevaluate. But from the looks of it, you don't have much experience mass-multitabling for days on end. It's not what it seems (I don't do this 'for a living' persay but I am not employed so do play tons of volume).

    Oh, and by the way, you seem to own the $44 6-max tourney. Keep it up !!
  30.  
    Originally Posted by dust View Post

    Steady income > poker income, unless you've been consistant making well over $100K a year in poker (remember you still have to pay taxes).
    poker stress > your job stress.

    Where does this 100k number come from, he said he would suffice on 1k a month... thats 12k a year??? If he was making 100k a year that would cover his expenses for 8 years... wish I could live off 1k a month. OH the days of high school when all that mattered was 20$ for a case of beer and gas to drive around.

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