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SICK SICK SPOT!!! Can I fold this???

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  1. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 1:05am)

    Just moved to table...no reads

    Can I fold this here??? The under the gun limp...my raise and even more so the smooth call out of the lb show lots of possible strength in this hand and should scream this to the shipper.

    What is a normal thinking players range for squeezing all in here?

    When it gets to me I am getting almost exactly 2-1 and even if the lb has a monster up his sleeve and calls (which I do fear because honestly that call either means monster or that or that he is a donk) I am getting 3-1 which is the right price for JJ even against a dominated range.

    Very bad spot....what would you do?

    Stage #1571895313 Tourney ID 4248408 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 800 - 2009-04-04 00:38:55 (ET)
    Table: 2 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - AJAHGIRL (16852 in chips)
    Seat 2 - UPAYMYMORGAGE (14963 in chips)
    Seat 3 - MFS0YUY1 (24347 in chips)
    Seat 4 - JILL339 (19983 in chips)
    Seat 5 - SAMUELADAMS (7819 in chips)
    Seat 7 - TOE CUTTER (12052 in chips)
    Seat 8 - HAMMER_U (14903 in chips)
    Seat 9 - TRIMOTHY (27782 in chips)
    AJAHGIRL - Ante 100
    UPAYMYMORGAGE - Ante 100
    MFS0YUY1 - Ante 100
    JILL339 - Ante 100
    SAMUELADAMS - Ante 100
    TOE CUTTER - Ante 100
    HAMMER_U - Ante 100
    TRIMOTHY - Ante 100
    AJAHGIRL - Posts small blind 400
    UPAYMYMORGAGE - Posts big blind 800
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to HAMMER_U [Jd Jh]
    MFS0YUY1 - Calls 800
    JILL339 - Folds
    SAMUELADAMS - Folds
    TOE CUTTER - Folds
    HAMMER_U - Raises 3200 to 3200
    TRIMOTHY - Folds
    AJAHGIRL - Calls 2800
    UPAYMYMORGAGE - All-In(Raise) 14063 to 14863
    MFS0YUY1 - Folds
    HAMMER_U -??????? wtf
     
  2. FlopNutsOnYou FlopNutsOnYou is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 1:30am) in reply to HammerU

    lol no
  3. bombers88 bombers88 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 1:38am) in reply to FlopNutsOnYou

    get it in
  4. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 1:48am) in reply to bombers88

    Think about it though....not as standard as it looks...I ran a poker stove on the shipping villain for having JJ + and AK and my equity came out to 36 percent I really feel that his range is super tight here.
     
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  5. 8ntmuch 8ntmuch is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 2:00am) in reply to HammerU

     
    Originally Posted by HammerU View Post

    Think about it though....not as standard as it looks...I ran a poker stove on the shipping villain for having JJ + and AK and my equity came out to 36 percent I really feel that his range is super tight here.

    Jamming wider.....
  6. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 2:07am) in reply to 8ntmuch

    How much wider?

    88+ AQx AK???
     
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  7. TheRealMT TheRealMT is offline Outing another backee - TheRealMT

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 2:32am) in reply to HammerU

    Can you really fold to someone who's not even smart enough to spell mortgage right?
     
  8. 3kingme3 3kingme3 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 2:53am) in reply to HammerU

     
    Originally Posted by HammerU View Post

    Think about it though....not as standard as it looks...I ran a poker stove on the shipping villain for having JJ + and AK and my equity came out to 36 percent I really feel that his range is super tight here.

    Do you really think villain is just folding hands like tens nines and eights here. Hell he can be shoving sevens and sixes here especialy if you're folding jacks to him Get it in
  9. WiCane WiCane is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 3:09am) in reply to HammerU

    Honestly, his range is probably a lot tighter then what we want to see. Not everyone knows what they are suppose to be doing so this ship is probably really really strong.

    I call but I wouldn't be surprised if we are dominated 75-80% of the time vs a villain like this.
     
  10. stevie444 stevie444 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 3:17am) in reply to TheRealMT

     
    Originally Posted by TheRealMT View Post

    Can you really fold to someone who's not even smart enough to spell mortgage right?

    lol this

    srsly tho...dont fold
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  11. darkhawk-200 darkhawk-200 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 3:45am) in reply to stevie444

    easy call, it's jj's and he has less than 15bb, end of story
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  12. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 4:50am) in reply to WiCane

    That was my feeling...he shoved so fast and it just wreaked of strength. Even running the numbers with the tightest range possible though JJ + and AK it call was slightly plus ev. That being said I am happy with my call but really wouldn't be to happy getting it in with 1010 here.
     
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  13. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2009 (4/4/2009 6:50am) in reply to TheRealMT

     
    Originally Posted by TheRealMT View Post

    Can you really fold to someone who's not even smart enough to spell mortgage right?

    seriously QFT
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