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  1. considering i didnt have more time bank left this is seriously one of the most sickest spots ive been in a while....... btw i know its retarded but after this hand i was on mega tilt the rest of the day .... THOUGHTS PLSSSSSS

    Ill ask trues to say what he had later if he wants....
    pokerstars Game #20462862297: Tournament #200800023, $500+$30 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/09/16 19:42:16 ET
    Table '200800023 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: klask (26622 in chips)
    Seat 2: truesyalose (49205 in chips)
    Seat 3: head27 (37061 in chips)
    Seat 4: twin-caracas (56693 in chips)
    Seat 5: hanji (24773 in chips)
    Seat 6: Russian_nuts (23674 in chips)
    Seat 7: By-TorNV (33540 in chips)
    Seat 8: iCeVeNoM (14731 in chips)
    Seat 9: Beatiful Man (61110 in chips)
    klask: posts the ante 50
    truesyalose: posts the ante 50
    head27: posts the ante 50
    twin-caracas: posts the ante 50
    hanji: posts the ante 50
    Russian_nuts: posts the ante 50
    By-TorNV: posts the ante 50
    iCeVeNoM: posts the ante 50
    Beatiful Man: posts the ante 50
    truesyalose: posts small blind 300
    head27: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to head27 [3s Qh]
    twin-caracas: calls 600
    hanji: calls 600
    Russian_nuts: folds
    By-TorNV: folds
    iCeVeNoM: folds
    By-TorNV said, "J8 again Jorge ?"
    Beatiful Man: folds
    klask: folds
    truesyalose: calls 300
    head27: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Qd Qs Ad]
    truesyalose: checks
    head27: checks
    twin-caracas: checks
    hanji: checks
    *** TURN *** [Qd Qs Ad] [3c]
    truesyalose: checks
    head27: checks
    twin-caracas: checks
    hanji: checks
    *** RIVER *** [Qd Qs Ad 3c] [4h]
    truesyalose: bets 1200
    head27: raises 6000 to 7200
    twin-caracas: folds
    hanji: folds
    truesyalose: raises 41355 to 48555 and is all-in
    head27 has timed out
    head27: folds
    Uncalled bet (41355) returned to truesyalose
    head27 is sitting out
    head27 has returned
    truesyalose collected 17250 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 17250 | Rake 0
    Board [Qd Qs Ad 3c 4h]
    Seat 1: klask (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: truesyalose (small blind) collected (17250)
    Seat 3: head27 (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 4: twin-caracas folded on the River
    Seat 5: hanji folded on the River
    Seat 6: Russian_nuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: By-TorNV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: iCeVeNoM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Beatiful Man folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    good laydown or not??????????????????/ ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
     
  2. Wow....Hope this is a joke.
  3. wow....

    cant possibly work out y u would check that turn

    nevertheless... ur only beat to AQ and AA here and 4s does seem the more likely

    3s is also a possibility

    pretty sure i dont fold here since 4s seems the most likely hand
     
  4. never has AA, i would think rarely has AQ (but possibly out of the SB). I say maybe AQ 20% of the time, 33/44 maybe like 30% (but, um, thats ok), some random Q most of it, and maybe a bluff here or there.

    this is with no reads though, just an educated guess. But yeah im never folding ever
     
  5. that is a pretty sick spot.... sorry your internet went out and it made you fold :/
  6. wow this is unreal bad fold 33/44 in his range more than anything how can you not call
     
  7.  
    Originally Posted by Lehman View Post

    Wow....Hope this is a joke.

    lol.... yaa flame me whatever.... i know its fkin sick and im still sick but seriously in the moment i just couldnt see him pushing me all in without aq or at least q4.... and i know he knows im an aggro maniac but i was playing super tight for the first 5 hrs.....
     
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  8. you think he flat 33/44 on river, head?
     
  9. you should edit the HH to take out your action to get better responses, that said I don't know anything about truesyalose so take it FWIW, but I don't get why you would fold this, you set the trap with a questionable series of plays on the flop and turn, now reap the reward
  10. Q4 is def not in his range!
     
  11.  
    Originally Posted by Claw1980 View Post

    you think he flat 33/44 on river, head?

    well yaa, because of the way i was playing ( mega tight )
     
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  12.  
    Originally Posted by Kochan View Post

    Q4 is def not in his range!

    mmmmmmmm why not????
     
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  13. 52o with the mistaken value shove on the river.
     
  14. 25s or smaller boat imo...how do you lay this down?

    edit- actually there's no way he raises w/ 25, but it's still gotta be 33 or 44
  15. my bad i thought u raised pre
     
  16. Sorry bro I just couldnt see laying this down in this spot. Only thing you are losing to is Q4 IMO. Qx is what he shows up here with most of the time. I guess he could possibly have AQ or AA but id say that its less than 10% of the time he shows up with one of those hands. He might have decided to get cute pre but I highly doubt it.

    I dont have 200k+ in cashes either so take it with a grain of salt but maye you made the laydown of the tourney.
  17. This is never a bluff...I probably type in FML and call.
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  18. i don't like it

    no matter how tight you've been playing, you're still head27 and he's still jamming worse boats imo
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  19.  
    Originally Posted by dpottz View Post

    i don't like it

    no matter how tight you've been playing, you're still head27 and he's still jamming worse boats imo

    yaa bro i know exactly what u mean and at that moment all that went through my head but on top of that i could only picture him pushing me with aq, q4 , q3 or 44 ... im only beating 1 of those.... plus i only put 7k with 30k behind.... haha im trying to make me feel better asdfsafasdfsafasfdasdf
     
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  20. wait your location is panama?

    snapppppppppppppp

    (snap regardless)
  21. i fold - yes some hands are value shoving river that u beat but not enough
     
  22. not rly a snap call, but maybe a delay 5 seconds say wtf then call. Also people are saying he has 25, i dont think that in his range (i hope not, that be pretty awful with 25)
     
  23. People are trying to play too fancy now...
  24. meh i think its a good fold
  25. Ok well for starters it 100 percent isn't AA unless there was a misclick pre.
    For the people saying he can't have AQ here, I really couldn't disagree with you guys more. I don't really see truesy necessarily raising OOP here from the sb rather than completing in the sb and seeing a flop with an underrepped hand. Yes you can raise here obviously from the SB, but in general there can be more value flatting here depending on table dynamics of course and how deep stacked people are. Also playing a big pot OOP sucks and since he has a bunch of tables going I'm sure, he's not viewing AQ as a must raise here pre.

    Clearly he could have Q4 also (most likely suited). I think trues flats 33 here on river, not sure about 44 but I'd say he might flat this too. Q4 makes the most sense to me since I could see myself checking flop and turn for pot control possibly. I would think AQ bets turn especially since the 3 on the turn is unlikely to help anyone's hand, but then again AQ could check here as well. I think this is Q4 , AQ def my 2nd guess, and I'd say same hand could be a possibility too and probably more likely than 33 and 44, since I don't know what 33 44 is expecting to get a call from. While it's easy to say all of this in on paper, in the heat of the moment I'm sure I call.
  26. wtf? this is like a turbo fold, ppl saying call is completely disgusting, and the obviousness of the fold is maginified 1000x when considering the tendencies of both players involved. it's pretty much AQ 100.0% of the time and if its not nice play, im a clown, etc.
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by JBT449 View Post

    Ok well for starters it 100 percent isn't AA unless there was a misclick pre.
    For the people saying he can't have AQ here, I really couldn't disagree with you guys more. I don't really see truesy necessarily raising OOP here from the sb rather than completing in the sb and seeing a flop with an underrepped hand. Yes you can raise here obviously from the SB, but in general there can be more value flatting here depending on table dynamics of course and how deep stacked people are. Also playing a big pot OOP sucks and since he has a bunch of tables going I'm sure, he's not viewing AQ as a must raise here pre.

    Clearly he could have Q4 also (most likely suited). I think trues flats 33 here on river, not sure about 44 but I'd say he might flat this too. Q4 makes the most sense to me since I could see myself checking flop and turn for pot control possibly. I would think AQ bets turn especially since the 3 on the turn is unlikely to help anyone's hand, but then again AQ could check here as well. I think this is Q4 , AQ def my 2nd guess, and I'd say same hand could be a possibility too and probably more likely than 33 and 44, since I don't know what 33 44 is expecting to get a call from. While it's easy to say all of this in on paper, in the heat of the moment I'm sure I call.

    Agree with all of this. His most likely hand is AQ imo. With that said, I still call bc I am terrible.
     
  28. Ummm....snap call?
     
  29. this is a snap call
     
  30. dude he called with 25 o/s or suited w.e it may be for 300 why the eff not
    u guys checked all the way down n he hit a str8 , u folding a boat is fcking stoooooooooopid bud

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