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sik river in the 1k on stars

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  1. bigredAK bigredAK is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:29pm)

    pokerstars Game #15576560901: Tournament #78439491, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/02/26 - 20:03:52 (ET)
    Table '78439491 4' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: eisenhower1 (3040 in chips)
    Seat 2: hoodini10 (3080 in chips)
    Seat 3: looshle (2940 in chips)
    Seat 4: bigredAK (3435 in chips)
    Seat 5: RaiNKhAN (3950 in chips)
    Seat 6: x2then (2940 in chips)
    Seat 7: Reverse (2940 in chips)
    Seat 8: goleafsgo41 (2475 in chips)
    Seat 9: nordeste (2000 in chips)
    bigredAK: posts small blind 10
    RaiNKhAN: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bigredAK [9h Ts]
    x2then: folds
    Reverse: folds
    goleafsgo41: folds
    nordeste: folds
    eisenhower1: folds
    hoodini10: folds
    looshle: calls 20
    bigredAK: calls 10
    RaiNKhAN: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8c Qc Js]
    bigredAK: checks
    RaiNKhAN: checks
    looshle: bets 40
    bigredAK: raises 100 to 140
    RaiNKhAN: folds
    looshle: calls 100
    *** TURN *** [8c Qc Js] [2s]
    bigredAK: bets 280
    looshle: calls 280
    *** RIVER *** [8c Qc Js 2s] [Qh]
    PokerStars Game #15576560901: Tournament #78439491, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/02/26 - 20:03:52 (ET)
    Table '78439491 4' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: eisenhower1 (3040 in chips)
    Seat 2: hoodini10 (3080 in chips)
    Seat 3: looshle (2940 in chips)
    Seat 4: bigredAK (3435 in chips)
    Seat 5: RaiNKhAN (3950 in chips)
    Seat 6: x2then (2940 in chips)
    Seat 7: Reverse (2940 in chips)
    Seat 8: goleafsgo41 (2475 in chips)
    Seat 9: nordeste (2000 in chips)
    bigredAK: posts small blind 10
    RaiNKhAN: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bigredAK [9h Ts]
    x2then: folds
    Reverse: folds
    goleafsgo41: folds
    nordeste: folds
    eisenhower1: folds
    hoodini10: folds
    looshle: calls 20
    bigredAK: calls 10
    RaiNKhAN: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8c Qc Js]
    bigredAK: checks
    RaiNKhAN: checks
    looshle: bets 40
    bigredAK: raises 100 to 140
    RaiNKhAN: folds
    looshle: calls 100
    *** TURN *** [8c Qc Js] [2s]
    bigredAK: bets 280
    looshle: calls 280
    *** RIVER *** [8c Qc Js 2s] [Qh]
    bigredAK: bets 675
    looshle: raises 1825 to 2500 and is all-in
    bigredAK: ????????

    thanks
     
  2. AMelione AMelione is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:32pm) in reply to bigredAK

    obv. no pro here but u dont' think 2 pair would r/r turn there? personally put him on KQ or Q10. but i dunno
  3. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:32pm) in reply to bigredAK

    I bet/call the river. I just don't see too many hands he'll limp on the button with that beats your straight. His range includes trips/missed draws so I really don't see myself folding there.
  4. charder charder is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:34pm) in reply to thefuture021

    folddd
     
  5. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:37pm) in reply to charder

    wouldnt villain raise turn with 2pr or set????
     
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:37pm) in reply to charder

    check/call river
  7. thedudelb thedudelb is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:41pm) in reply to Damage1

    I like check/call also, but as played i fold
  8. B_O_K_E B_O_K_E is online now

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:44pm) in reply to Damage1

    check/call river....as played I call cause I dont make big laydowns.
     
  9. charder charder is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:47pm) in reply to B_O_K_E

    plz dont c/c river, b/f is the best line.
     
  10. yooperusaf yooperusaf is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:51pm) in reply to bigredAK

    what was the end result?
  11. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:56pm) in reply to yooperusaf

    bet/fold is best...

    looshle is v solid. hes not fooling around this early imo.
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  12. 88inthepocket 88inthepocket is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:56pm) in reply to yooperusaf

    im gonna guess pocket 8s.
  13. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:57pm) in reply to 88inthepocket

    <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#eeeedd"><td><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td>Re(2): sik river in the 1k on stars
    by 88inthepocket on 2/26/2008 19:56 </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><nobr> </nobr> </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td colspan="2"><table celspacing="0" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>im gonna guess pocket 8s.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>shocker
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 7:58pm) in reply to thefuture021

    If he's capable of reraising allin on a missed draw on river then i think check calling is the best option.
     
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:01pm) in reply to crapshot1

    highly highly doubt hes bluffing this river. He hes extactly QJ so often. b/f
     
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:04pm) in reply to bigredAK

    RESULTS?
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:05pm) in reply to charder

    explain how bet fold is best please.
  18. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:09pm) in reply to bigredAK

    Everyone in the check/fold or check/call camp (nearly everyone that's not me):

    Don't you think you're missing out on quite a bit of value on a relatively safe board with a strong hand?
  19. 88inthepocket 88inthepocket is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:13pm) in reply to thefuture021

    lmao
    ..i wasnt even thinking about the irony.

    oh lol im a loser.
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:15pm) in reply to thefuture021

    please bet more on the turn, too many draws out there

    ipwntable
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:16pm) in reply to thefuture021

    my reasoning for check calling is that any hand with a queen is going to bet, and if you bet they won't raise unless they have a boat.

    then, any hand with a jack won't (shouldn't) call a river bet, but might throw out a small value bet thinking you have J8 or another counterfit 2 pair
  22. bigredAK bigredAK is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:16pm) in reply to ipwntable

    pretty much potted the turn
     
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:47pm) in reply to Damage1

    bet fold the river.... no chance he is bluffing you here or showing you anything less than a boat
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:50pm) in reply to moorman1

    Looshle has it here everytime.
  25. j_farah j_farah is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 8:51pm) in reply to bigredAK

    His range here is probably very small. It's basically QJ, T9, and a small chance of a missed draw. I guess 88 or KQ might be possible, but wouldn't he raise pre with those?
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    Feb 26th, 2008 (2/26/2008 9:31pm) in reply to j_farah

    the more i think about it, T9 almost makes the most sense...but that'd probably be a bad shove on that river...idk
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    Feb 27th, 2008 (2/27/2008 8:20pm) in reply to Gags30

    the OP runs so good its not even fair.
     
  28. orgnalsooners orgnalsooners is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2008 (2/28/2008 12:09am) in reply to FishOnTilt

    whoever says looshle is never bluffing here obv has not played very much with him... Though he is a friend and a very good player he could have lots of hands including T9... I believe charder is correct in saying that b/f is the best line there is also a case for a check call... I dont think he has 88 here and am pretty sure he showed you QJ if u called but i certainly wouldnt rule out T9s and trying to blow u off same hand... results?
     
  29. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2008 (2/28/2008 12:22am) in reply to orgnalsooners

    i can't fathom looshle limping 88 on the button... i can fathom him limping qj and 910 however
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