Ok so I staked my friend in the $100 DS on stars because alotta the better players dont play it anymore so I feel theres alot of dead money in it. Anywho heres an interesting hand that I think alotta people could learn from.

pokerstars Game #13590703522: Tournament #68053432, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/12/01 - 19:28:22 (ET)
Table '68053432 16' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DavyMcMurphy (5875 in chips)
Seat 2: Bumbulbee_G (8975 in chips)
Seat 3: Proc21 (4790 in chips)
Seat 4: Manero (11705 in chips)
Seat 5: Longhorne (4755 in chips)
Seat 6: sk1llz2424 (4980 in chips)
Seat 7: wanpi (3830 in chips)
Seat 8: 0120 (4900 in chips)
0120: posts small blind 10
DavyMcMurphy: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Bumbulbee_G: folds
Proc21: raises 60 to 80
Manero: calls 80
Longhorne: folds
sk1llz2424: folds
wanpi: folds
0120: raises 240 to 320
DavyMcMurphy: folds
Proc21: calls 240
Manero: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c Qd]
0120: bets 800
Proc21: raises 1750 to 2550
Manero: folds
0120: raises 2030 to 4580 and is all-in
Proc21: calls 1920 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Th 8c Qd] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Th 8c Qd 8d] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
0120: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
Proc21: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
0120 collected 9920 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9920 | Rake 0
Board [Th 8c Qd 8d 3d]
Seat 1: DavyMcMurphy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Bumbulbee_G folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Proc21 showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 4: Manero folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Longhorne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sk1llz2424 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: wanpi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 0120 (small blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (9920) with two pair, Aces and Eights

First off calling the re raise pre is a meh play...I dont really think its that bad since they are very deep...its suited and can flop huge etc... Anyway when the flop comes down and the re raiser bets 800 into two people its a fold and here is why...IMO his re raising range here is QQ-AA maybe AK/JJ. Thats pretty much it this early/deepstacked. Hes not going to cont. bet this flop with AK or JJ most likely. That narrows his range to QQ-AA. Its kind of unlikely for him to have QQ since that would be the case two Queens and most playeres that dont kno any better would default check top set here. This leaves his range at KK and AA. Both of which has us completely shit on.

My friend turned his AQ into a complete bluff since his RR on the flop is never getting called by a worse hand...combine that with the fact that were crushed here 95%+ of the time makes this hand pretty attrocious. I explained all this to him and I think he understands for the most part what I was trying to get across to him. Anyway hope this helps some people. gl.

i giggled that you put your friend in this because of all the dead money, then showed us this hh where he went broke 250 bbs deep with top top when it couldn't possibly be good

Looks pretty standard to me Ship.. Random players arent getting away from AQ on an Q high board like that. I was going to say unless he folds pre.. Which isnt that horrible but definatly nitty especially Deep Stacked.. After that the hand plays itself out.. Maybe you might be good enough to just fold right there on the flop. Which in that case why even bother calling pre if your just going to fold to one bet when you hit your flop pretty good correct?

AQ is good here 5% of the time, really dont think this hand history is that complicated lol. Stacking off here was cute though.

I wouldnt consider AQ hitting this flop "pretty good" IMO. This is a pretty dangerous board, as I already said AQ is rarely gonna be good here 3 handed.

i do think its good that ship is tryin to have a poker discussion. this hand is pretty meh but I give ship an A for effort. and i cant stand the dude.

Your right im not going over groundbreaking strategy here but you cant deny that this is a spot that a tonnn of players go broke in.

I wouldn't have even seen the flop. Deep stacked or not, I fold AQ to a reraise in that spot. He def shouldn't have stacked off here, your analysis is spot on. Let's hope he learned his lesson!

Deep stacked I prefer to limp the AQ sooted and either fold to a raise or call if the raise if small enough. Unsuited I open fold here at this level. Better to keep the pot small and dump it at the first sign of trouble. At the very least you have to flop two pair or a very good draw to risk much here imo.

Well the reason I started limping hands like this deep stacked is because it prevents larger reraises. Once the reraiser makes it 320 its an autofold in my opinion. If you limp maybe his raise is only 120 or so and you spew less chips if you miss the fop.

SHIP, can we have your thought process on the flop if you are 0120 in this hand. Ta.

you should stake me in this itd be +ev =) .

im not a fan of getting it in here in deepstacks whatsoever, i think he should just lay it down on flop when the preflop reraiser bets out. playing a 500bb pot with AQ on that flop in a multiway pot seems like a really big spew. hes really never good here, i doubt 0120 cbets AK here in a multiway pot. only hand i can see ur friend beating is JJ and hes not getting action from it if he raises anyway.

this is a good thread Ship. More of this kind of stuff will get you much more respect than the other. Sorry bout my 2cent on the last one

Sweet stable Ship. Can I get a couple thousand pounds of glue?

Ship, A component of your decision is based on the board texture. So if that is the case, what would be your thoughts if the flop came of Q 4 2 rainbow. Also, what types of flops are you looking to see to continue in the hand....flopping a flush draw still gets your chips in bad, but if you can control pot size, you would have some good implied odds. Just curious your thoughts.