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  1. AawwNutz AawwNutz is offline

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    Aug 12th, 2005 (8/12/2005 11:22pm)

    An example of situational poker. Comments at the bottom.

    pokerstars Game #2325138049: Tournament #10967015, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/08/12 - 22:20:32 (ET)
    Table '10967015 49' Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: razorhand (2510 in chips)
    Seat 2: Scotty0617 (1515 in chips)
    Seat 3: augie98 (715 in chips)
    Seat 4: Dethlefsen (1225 in chips)
    Seat 5: ron irwin (3065 in chips)
    Seat 6: oatster (1570 in chips)
    Seat 7: AawwNutz (1690 in chips)
    Seat 8: glguwc (1790 in chips)
    Seat 9: razortx (1240 in chips)
    oatster: posts small blind 15
    AawwNutz: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to AawwNutz [Ah 5d]
    glguwc: folds
    razortx: calls 30
    razorhand: folds
    Scotty0617: calls 30
    augie98: folds
    Dethlefsen: calls 30
    ron irwin: folds
    oatster: calls 15
    AawwNutz: checks
    *** FLOP *** [3d 2c 3h]
    oatster: checks
    AawwNutz: checks
    razortx: checks
    Scotty0617: bets 90
    Dethlefsen: folds
    oatster: folds
    AawwNutz: calls 90
    razortx: folds
    *** TURN *** [3d 2c 3h] [Kh]
    AawwNutz: bets 150
    Scotty0617: folds
    AawwNutz collected 330 from pot
    AawwNutz: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 330 | Rake 0
    Board [3d 2c 3h Kh]
    Seat 1: razorhand folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Scotty0617 folded on the Turn
    Seat 3: augie98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Dethlefsen folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: ron irwin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: oatster (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: AawwNutz (big blind) collected (330)
    Seat 8: glguwc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: razortx folded on the Flop

    The whole situational key to this hand is that I was in the BB and got a free look and no one else indicated strength. I've also got the chips to make this play because the blinds are still low.

    The playing key is to represent the hand FROM THE FLOP. For example, very few people would lead out at the flop if they had a 3. So, go ahead and slow play it a little. Also note that I've got the A and 4 that might win it for me along the way. I check and smooth call on the flop. On the turn, I lead out to get value out of my supposed monster.

    It would be really nice to know what the other player had because I may have had the best hand anyway. Either way, I got him to lay down the best hand or to bluff without a hand.

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  2. mjf21 mjf21 is offline

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    Aug 12th, 2005 (8/12/2005 11:37pm) in reply to AawwNutz

    That's a nice example, awwww. I'm not a great player at this point in time, but this type of play is something I've been able to add to my arsenal, and it helps tremendously for building chips in MTTs. My problem is loosening up a bit too much once I get those chips and leaking them back to everyone else. I have a question, when you have a hand like AQ, and you open raise with it from mid pos with one or two callers. If the flop is not favorable, do you make a continuation bet? I always do, and I do pick up about 1/3 to half the pots, but other times, I get pushed off with a raise, OR, worse yet, I get called and when I take a second shot at it on the turn, I get raised off then. REally eats away at my chip stack. Any suggestions?
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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 12:10am) in reply to mjf21

    If you take a stab and get called, don't fire again on the turn unless you make a hand.
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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 12:27am) in reply to AawwNutz

    I think it depends on whether the players at your table believe you're capable of playing 3 x.

    In this case, I don't think you were up against anyone who was capable of thinking beyond his own hand. You were representing Trips, and, nobody else even had a pair, and, that's all they could see.

    In general, I think the principle is sound. I just think Trip 3's is a poor example.
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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 12:40am) in reply to Dunce

    Wha? He checked in the BB, of course he can have 3x.
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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 1:53am) in reply to AawwNutz

    I'm going to comment at the risk of revealing how much of a novice I am, but...

    If you were trying to represent a 3 in this situation, why would you not let him bet out the turn as well and then checkraise him?

    Wouldn't he also fold here if he's beaten by a pair of kings?
  7. pokerisnice pokerisnice is offline

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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 12:48pm) in reply to rain_k

    leading out on the turn shows more strength that the check raise. By calling on the flop and then leading out on the turn you are representing that your hand is so big that even though your opponent bet the flop you are not afraid of leading into him and having him raise you... his conclusion: this guy must have a MONSTER
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    Aug 13th, 2005 (8/13/2005 4:05pm) in reply to AawwNutz

    Readzie, your post is a great example of situational poker. The SB is going to represent the ace on this flop, but most likely will not have it, because he did not raise pre-flop. The smooth call and then the bet indicate strength. This is how a lot of the SB vs BB hands should go. It comes down to who can represent something better. Nice patience Six.

    uh-oh. Readzie got in trouble.....
     
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