pokerstars Game #17941797371: Tournament #91009202, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2008/06/05 - 19:50:13 (ET)
Table '91009202 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: smitonies (10195 in chips)
Seat 3: Bank_E (4402 in chips)
Seat 4: gihdahbaface (7154 in chips)
Seat 5: nickj7777 (5652 in chips)
Seat 6: Pallieter (6575 in chips)
Seat 7: Azmar77 (3837 in chips)
Seat 8: minagorri19 (23930 in chips)
Seat 9: kirand (5755 in chips)
smitonies: posts the ante 75
Bank_E: posts the ante 75
gihdahbaface: posts the ante 75
nickj7777: posts the ante 75
Pallieter: posts the ante 75
Azmar77: posts the ante 75
minagorri19: posts the ante 75
kirand: posts the ante 75
smitonies: posts small blind 600
Bank_E: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gihdahbaface [Ac Th]
gihdahbaface:??????????????

I may be wrong but given ur stack i think this is a shove. If you were about 5 BB's deeper u can fold this all day. these days the UTG shove with less than 10 BB's looks really really weak so you may get lucky and be called by something u dominate. tough spot though, and i'm certainly no expert, but i'm probably getting it in here.

j0 srs? resteal?

in Turbo play, either way if you shove or fold here you won't be scolded but keep in mind the chipleader is in the way. its better to try to work on the players between you and him imo. generally AT past midp is too far, but as someone said the stack size shoving would look suspicious...i disagree at this point, not in a $6 45 man, most people in turbos are more concerned with their own well being. in a $6 i am not convinced people will even be thinking much about how calling will impact their chipstack if they lose tbh. either they are call monkeys or they are not.

obv a lot depends on the table feel of calling stations vs tight players. only you know that answer. is the cl one of those who feels its his job to take everyone out personally even at the cost of donking off his stack or does he play like he does with a mid stack?

the fact that this is the bubble surely adds to the fact that this a shove, u wanna try and abuse the bubble not the other way around..............and fwiw A v0id in me knows his sng's imo.

You have 2 choices:

G O A L L I N

O R

S H O V E

FOLD. FOLD. I am 100 % certain this is the right play.

In turbo SNGs, when the blinds get this high you want to steal the blinds and antes as much as possible without having to show your cards. With 7 players left to act behind you, this is far less likely to happen. If you do get called, you will likely be dominated. If you pick up A 10 in the cut-off, button, or SB, shove. But shoving UTG is spewy.

Either wait for a better hand, wait to make a move from the button, or wait until you are forced to play A 10. But now is not the time.

 

Originally Posted by BeesMoose

obv shove
chipleader needs a hand to call you, as do all the shortstacks

And how many hands beat A 10?????

easy shove

once u go through blinds you loose all FE you had, a10 on the bubble is an easy shove all day long, plus 6$ players will fold on bubble alot more than you think.

 

Originally Posted by Jennifear

Shoving sucks. It's AT out of position, and you are likely to run into a good hand that would cripple or kill you.

Folding sucks. You are forfeiting most of your fold equity when you eat the BB next time.

Minraising with intent to fold sucks. It's a spew that forces you to go allin next hand.

Minraising with intent to call sucks. Just shove to maximize your fold equity if you are going to do this.

Limping sucks because it's a waste of chips, and you don't use any of your fold equity. The BB will never fold to a limp.

So all of your options suck. You need to pick the lesser of all the evils.

Shoving sucks the least, and it's not all that close. You need to preserve your fold equity here, and even though that risks it all, this is time to do that.

Shove. Raising to 6000 might look more intimidating to the $6.50 players than an outright shove, so that option might maximize your fold equity.

Why would he substantially lose FE once the BB passes him? Any shove he makes will still be for virtually all of the opponents' chips.

In a couple of hands he will have 5200 at 800-1600. it's not a good spot.

Folding costs you because you'll be calling with xx as opposed to shoving with AT and having a prayer.

This really isn't even close. A5s looks good too, as does JTs.

I think we have more FE than you think. We will get called only about 60% of the time here. Most of the other 40% we will be getting 3:2 on our chips, which is about an even break on our money.

 

Originally Posted by Pghfan987

1) Shoving UTG looks weak, because everyone knows that you are concerned about paying the BB next hand.

Uhhh, you seem to be forgetting or flat out ignoring the fact that this is in a $6.50 sng. The majority of the players in this are not thinking at a level high enough to see this as weak.

Agreed this is a shove. 2-3k more chips you can think about folding.

LOL at all the people that fold here. No wonder i used to crush the 45 mans. Im shipping soooooooo many hands in this pot as it will be the last chance i can get a marginal hand to fold. Not to mention ur on the bubble and no one should be calling u light. also its not like u have air u have a hand value of 21!!!!!!!!!!!! thats even better then paint paint!

what about KT in this position..