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SnG hand was my thinking correct here?

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  1. MrEstate MrEstate is offline

    Redlands, CA
    United States

    Posts: 219
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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 10:21pm)

    I am wondering regardless of the out come of this hand, what
    really is the best play in this type of spot.
    Since 4 of use are playing for third and the BB's are pretty
    close except for DreddMe which is short stacked.
    Me = 6.92 BB (since he is going to hit the 200 blind)
    LibraryCop =5.97 BB (since he is going to hit the 200 blind)
    AgiPokerStar = 9.7 BB (since he is going to hit the 200 blind)

    Now my thinking was that DreddMe had just lost a big pot
    two hands before and was pushing pretty much any 2, madcashmon
    was the chip leader and since he was the one to get
    DreddMe's chips, him flat calling didn't surprise me.
    since he just flated I figured he had something like a
    A-rag hand or even possible something as weak as K or Q - Rag.
    With pocket 9's and a push and a flat I figured to be ahead
    the majorage of the time and with the blinds going up,
    if I folded I would be left with about 7 BB by the time the
    BB came around.
    So if I won, that would put me in a better place to get into
    second and have something to fight madcashmon with. But then
    on the other side if I lose I would be bubble boy and no money.

    So would it been better to just fold and hope for a better hand
    or to push here and get into better shape?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #11366095775: $6 + $0.50 Madness (Turbo) (85404703), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:23:33 ET - 2009/03/27
    Seat 2: LibraryCop (1,195)
    Seat 3: AgiPokerStar (1,940)
    Seat 7: DreddMe (900)
    Seat 8: madcashmoneyman (7,920)
    Seat 9: MrEstate (1,545)
    madcashmoneyman posts the small blind of 80
    MrEstate posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MrEstate [9d 9c]
    LibraryCop folds
    AgiPokerStar folds
    DreddMe has 15 seconds left to act
    DreddMe raises to 900, and is all in
    madcashmoneyman calls 820
    MrEstate raises to 1,545, and is all in
    madcashmoneyman calls 645
    MrEstate shows [9d 9c]
    DreddMe shows [Ts 3s]
    madcashmoneyman shows [Ad 8c]
    *** FLOP *** [4s 2c Ac]
    *** TURN *** [4s 2c Ac] [2h]
    *** RIVER *** [4s 2c Ac 2h] [Qc]
    MrEstate shows two pair, Nines and Twos
    madcashmoneyman shows two pair, Aces and Twos
    madcashmoneyman wins the side pot (1,290) with two pair, Aces and Twos
    DreddMe shows a pair of Twos
    madcashmoneyman wins the main pot (2,700) with two pair, Aces and Twos
    DreddMe stands up
    MrEstate stands up
    The blinds are now 100/200
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3,990 Main pot 2,700. Side pot 1,290. | Rake 0
    Board: [4s 2c Ac 2h Qc]
    Seat 2: LibraryCop didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: AgiPokerStar didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: DreddMe (button) showed [Ts 3s] and lost with a pair of Twos
    Seat 8: madcashmoneyman (small blind) showed [Ad 8c] and won (3,990) with two pair, Aces and Twos
    Seat 9: MrEstate (big blind) showed [9d 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Twos
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Mar 28th, 2009 (3/28/2009 4:02am) in reply to MrEstate

    HoldemResources.net Nash shows:
    <table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td>BU</td><td>29.7%, 22+ Ax+ K6s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s </td></tr><tr><td>SB</td><td>17.9%, 22+ A2s+ A7o+ KTs+ KQo QJs </td></tr><tr><td>BB</td><td>1.8%, JJ+ </td></tr></tbody></table>

    Since you have almost no fold equity vs the big stack, your push over the top with and additional 1385 chips and madcash only has to call 725 to win 3025. He's getting 4.17:1 pot odds. How can he fold for that price with any two reasonable cards?

    His calling range can be wide because neither of the short stacks will threaten his tournament life.

    Nash calculation indicates you should have JJ+ to make the overcall here.

    Nash Calculation
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