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SnG Push/Fold Question

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  1. acnownzu02 acnownzu02 is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2007 (4/9/2007 4:19pm)

    I was in this situation on the bubble of a 18 man $6.50 turbo on stars. Here's the hand:

    Seat 2: acnownzu02 (2740 in chips)
    Seat 3: Pppi79 (2100 in chips)
    Seat 4: Carsten17577 (7975 in chips)
    Seat 7: ronaldmel (8140 in chips)
    Seat 9: number44 (6045 in chips)
    acnownzu02: posts the ante 50
    Pppi79: posts the ante 50
    Carsten17577: posts the ante 50
    ronaldmel: posts the ante 50
    number44: posts the ante 50
    acnownzu02: posts small blind 300
    Pppi79: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to acnownzu02 [Qh 4d]
    Carsten17577: folds
    ronaldmel: folds
    number44: folds
    acnownzu02: ???

    Is this a push or a fold? Puppi has around 1500 left (before the SB) if he folds to a push. If I fold, he'll win the blinds and be up to 2525 and I'll be down to 2440 with the BB coming up in 4 hands.

    If I push and he calls and I win, he obviously bubbles, but if he calls and I lose, I will have less than one BB.

    My image is fairly loose and aggressive, but I haven't pushed into his blind the last few rounds.

    A final factor is that the big stacks have been making fairly loose all-in calls, so if I fold and then push one or more of the next 3 hands, I am fairly likely to be called
  2. jbay jbay is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2007 (4/9/2007 8:08pm) in reply to acnownzu02

    Whats his calling range? Answer that and you can do the math as to whether it's a push or a fold. I'm inclined to call it a push. But his calling range is very important.
  3. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2007 (4/9/2007 8:13pm) in reply to acnownzu02

    This is a push.

    Q7 is the "computer hand" meaning that it is the hand in the middle of the road. Your Q4 is the best hand appx 45% of the time. I like push here barely if you have no fold equity. The more fold equity you have the more I like push.
  4. pokerisnice pokerisnice is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2007 (4/9/2007 9:03pm) in reply to acnownzu02

    This is a 100% shove with any 2 cards. You absolutely must shove even 5 high here. Look at the table dynamics. Firstly, you only have to get one person to fold to add 50% to your stack. On top of that, the person you are shoving into is the only stack shorter than yours. You MUST shove any two cards here 1000% of the time.
  5. acnownzu02 acnownzu02 is offline

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    Apr 10th, 2007 (4/10/2007 4:13am) in reply to pokerisnice

    As far as his range, it was hard to put him on a specific range because he had not made any borderline or loose all-in calls at the final table and he wasn't at my first table.

    But anyway, I did shove and he called with K7, his hand held, and I ended up bubbling. But I don't want to be results oriented and I'm glad it sounds like I made the right play.
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