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  1. TrippinDeath TrippinDeath is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 1:40am)

    This is the first hand of a $16 9 man turbo sng on stars. I call behind a limper on the button with a small pp. When the original limper led on the flop I raised with bottom set. The sb called which didn't really worry me, but then the limper brokenstar shoved. I immediately put him on 66 or 77. I almost mucked, but I see so many baffling plays at these limits and I didn't recognize the player as a regular so I decided folding would be a mistake as his range could be pretty big in this spot.
    Without a really strong read on the player or even if this was a solid player that I knew, should I ever be folding this? If this was a mtt I would of beat him in the pot, but seeing hows it's the first hand of a sng is it just too likely he has an AA or KK there and it would never be profitable to fold in that spot?

    pokerstars Game #17852814783: Tournament #90547881, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/06/01 - 20:43:38 (ET)
    Table '90547881 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: TrippinDeath (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Borale (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: Ainaras (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: steveny914 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: beatkkkk (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: brokenstar (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: doden2008 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: lol_imo (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: dowelldad (1500 in chips)
    Borale: posts small blind 10
    Ainaras: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TrippinDeath [4d 4s]
    steveny914: folds
    beatkkkk: folds
    brokenstar: calls 20
    doden2008: folds
    lol_imo: folds
    dowelldad: folds
    TrippinDeath: calls 20
    Borale: calls 10
    Ainaras: checks
    *** FLOP *** [6s 4c 7h]
    Borale: checks
    Ainaras: checks
    brokenstar: bets 80
    TrippinDeath: raises 160 to 240
    Borale: calls 240
    Ainaras: folds
    brokenstar: raises 1240 to 1480 and is all-in
    TrippinDeath: calls 1240 and is all-in
    Borale: folds
    *** TURN *** [6s 4c 7h] [Ks]
    *** RIVER *** [6s 4c 7h Ks] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    brokenstar: shows [6d 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
    TrippinDeath: shows [4d 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
    brokenstar collected 3280 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3280 | Rake 0
    Board [6s 4c 7h Ks Js]
    Seat 1: TrippinDeath (button) showed [4d 4s] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
    Seat 2: Borale (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: Ainaras (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: steveny914 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: beatkkkk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: brokenstar showed [6d 6h] and won (3280) with three of a kind, Sixes
    Seat 7: doden2008 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: lol_imo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: dowelldad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. WeWaysAwIn WeWaysAwIn is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 3:37am) in reply to TrippinDeath

    Plenty of hands that you beat here. 88-AA might shove this flop. 55 45 65 75 76 64 74 78 also. I just think if you start trying to fold sets you're going to be folding the best hand way too often.
  3. moman1965 moman1965 is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 11:42am) in reply to TrippinDeath

    Ran into the same situation as the BB. Min raise from early position and I am hold 77. Flop comes Q 10 7. I check, he leads, I raise and he shoves. Just knew I ran into aces. I did and he proceeded to hit runner runner K J for a straight! GG me but it was the right play. Long run= +EV.
  4. 8ntmuch 8ntmuch is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 12:08pm) in reply to moman1965

    Set over set is just UL, I would be in that pot almost every time. The only thing I'd be worried about when all of the chips are put in would be 85, there was no preflop raise and he is in the SB.
  5. TrippinDeath TrippinDeath is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 1:39pm) in reply to WeWaysAwIn

    ^ my thought process as well. I mean really I know its a cooler and almost everyone is going broke there. But really the way the hand was played if that was a solid player shouldn't he have nothing but 66 or 77?
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  6. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 7:29pm) in reply to TrippinDeath

    do you know he's a solid player? it is the first hand of a $16...

    no way i fold bottom set on the first hand of an sng unless i have like 22 and the flop comes AAAAAAAAA2 and three people go allin in front of me.
  7. sotti sotti is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 (6/2/2008 10:42pm) in reply to TrippinDeath

    set over set = good game you.

    not a damn thing wrong with getting all your chips in on that flop.
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