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SNG Question - Weird situation, what should I do?

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  1. ferrengi ferrengi is offline

    Brooklyn, NY
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    Aug 22nd, 2008 (8/22/2008 5:24pm)

    pokerstars Game #19816131367: Tournament #103695076, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/08/22 - 16:30:45 (ET)
    Table '103695076 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: JTP-HS (1455 in chips)
    Seat 2: j.hugo65 (1900 in chips)
    Seat 3: POES2004 (1580 in chips)
    Seat 4: sea58g (1865 in chips)
    Seat 5: neilxtrem (1540 in chips)
    Seat 6: dave the mas (1600 in chips)
    Seat 7: ferrengi (985 in chips)
    Seat 8: koecky777 (1015 in chips)
    Seat 9: PokerTutor (1560 in chips)
    j.hugo65: posts small blind 25
    POES2004: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ferrengi [8d 8h]
    sea58g: calls 50
    neilxtrem: folds
    dave the mas: folds
    ferrengi: raises 150 to 200
    koecky777: folds
    PokerTutor: folds
    JTP-HS: folds
    j.hugo65: folds
    POES2004: calls 150
    sea58g: calls 150
    *** FLOP *** [4s Jd 2h]
    POES2004: bets 100
    sea58g: calls 100
    ferrengi: ?

    From a $16 Turbo SNG (single table) on Stars.

    I don't know anything about POES or what exactly this bet means.

    I could see doing this with either a very strong hand or draw, none of which seem very likely on this board.

    sea58g had been limping into a lot of pots and in general seemed like a bad player.

    I really don't know what to do here. I only have second pair. However, I don't think flat calling is correct. If I'm ahead here, I want to charge opponents for trying to hit overcards. As strange as it seems, with my short stack, I really think the only options are push all in or fold.

    Your thoughts?

    BTW - I guess you could make the argument that I should've folded preflop. I don't really like that play but I'm willing to hear arguments for folding pre.
  2. Jennifear Jennifear is online now

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    Aug 22nd, 2008 (8/22/2008 6:05pm) in reply to ferrengi

    Preflop:

    Never fold. It's an awful play. 88 is a huge hand in virtually every unraised pot.

    Raising preflop is good, as is shoving.

    As played, on the flop you are beaten. Someone has at least a jack because there are no draws on the flop. It's too unlikely that your shortstack will scare them off. You are drawing to two outs. Fold.
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