since the beginning of time it's always been every man for himself

it's an entrepreneurial game

to be honset, i always feel a bit of a guilty conscience taking money from complete degens, because i used to be that kid losing $$ i couldn't afford to lose

I don't ever feel bad about taking peoples money online. Sometimes I'll find myself feeling bad after I take money from some old nits live though. Especially if you kind of been kinda becoming m8s with them as they tell you their cool war stories and what not.

Just tell her about your farm animal fetish then poker won't seem bad at all.

 

Originally Posted by Weapon X

ive posted this before but the best way to get a gf on your side is to give her a cut of a wins - in cash in a gangster style fashion 20s in a envelope you win 2k lets say toss her 100 bones so 5% no pay back lol its always worked for me and the few times you win big 10k + still do it and watch the love u get lol

Took my GF to London last spring... hehe, she's really into poker now, play money account and all

 

Originally Posted by smcrawford2

tell her to stfu and make you a sandwich.

Couldnt say better myself except if she doesnt appreciate you making some money on other schmucks then she probably is too soft to be in the real world and you need to dump her. She sounds like someone that would rather work at a non profit company and feel good about herself but live in a crappy apartment then be successful at a career and actually try to live for the good life. Oh sure, we need people like that in this world, but they arent called girlfriends. They are called ugly, fat girls with lots of cats to come home to.

Why does she think you are taking peoples money? Just be honest with her and show her your stats. I really don't get this post.

just say its immoral to let a sucker keep his money ;)

 

Originally Posted by ATrainBoston

Can I give you younger guys a little advice about women?

If she doesn't support what you want to do...get out of the relationship.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

If you let her influence you about gambling, that will only be the start.
As far as taking peoples money goes, nobody forces them to gamble, you cant take care of every lame duck on the planet.

Now, some people might look down on haonhacks mechanics, call it immoral.
But as Canada Bill Jones said, "It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money."
Like they teach you in One-L... caveat emptor, pal.

try to explain a downswong and stay positive. Do not play ur drunk uncle in UNO for his sweet rims. it will balance itself out.

 

Originally Posted by Mufasa007

According to my holdem manager I pay $10.32 an hour to have fun playing poker. What else is as much fun and such cheap entertainment as playing poker??? :-) It is my hard earned money and I will chose to spend it anyway I like :-)

This is the point. People play poker for entertainment. Because they are ok with losing a good amount and a lot of people play, it creates salaries for someone. It's much like the music, movie, professional sports, and even they guy playing on the street. I seriously can't walk 2 blocks without spending $10.32 nowadays and you can get your heart rate climbing when calling a huge bluff or pulling one off from the comfort of your own home. And don't forget that if the deck hits you hard enough in any tournament, you can win it.

As poker pros, you are more part of a player in the entertainment industry. It seems that our game has enough people that like playing with other players (think Full Tilt Pro/Moneymaker effect) that it enhances prize pools. You are just an actor playing a game.

If you want to tell your girlfriend what you do, tell her you are part of a game that people love and you spend your earnings somewhere, and the person who earns your rake spends their money somewhere (probably not the US since we can't be invested in a poker site probably,maybe,sort of under the law). If she keeps nagging you about poker and how you do nothing, you either have to deal with it or find someone else.

I've generally found two types of people out there with attitudes towards poker players. The "you do what! That's Awesome!!" camp and the very skeptical gambling is bad crowd. I think if anyone educated understands what's going on in this industry stays skeptical, they wouldn't be for me. You have to make that call on your own. Good luck sir.

 

Originally Posted by kice32

This is the point. People play poker for entertainment. Because they are ok with losing a good amount and a lot of people play, it creates salaries for someone. It's much like the music, movie, professional sports, and even they guy playing on the street. I seriously can't walk 2 blocks without spending $10.32 nowadays and you can get your heart rate climbing when calling a huge bluff or pulling one off from the comfort of your own home. And don't forget that if the deck hits you hard enough in any tournament, you can win it.

As poker pros, you are more part of a player in the entertainment industry. It seems that our game has enough people that like playing with other players (think Full Tilt Pro/Moneymaker effect) that it enhances prize pools. You are just an actor playing a game.

If you want to tell your girlfriend what you do, tell her you are part of a game that people love and you spend your earnings somewhere, and the person who earns your rake spends their money somewhere (probably not the US since we can't be invested in a poker site probably,maybe,sort of under the law). If she keeps nagging you about poker and how you do nothing, you either have to deal with it or find someone else.

I've generally found two types of people out there with attitudes towards poker players. The "you do what! That's Awesome!!" camp and the very skeptical gambling is bad crowd. I think if anyone educated understands what's going on in this industry stays skeptical, they wouldn't be for me. You have to make that call on your own. Good luck sir.

I found this and apology7's post very helpful

thanks for the help guys, i'll be able to defend this great game a lot better next time. oh and whoever said she'd be the type of person to want to work at a non-profit and stuff, you're right.

 

Originally Posted by Whatshoulditbe

since the beginning of time it's always been every man for himself

it's an entrepreneurial game

i've been using the entrepreneurial aspect of it too, it's my best avenue to that right now



and i she already makes me sammiches; some of you are right though, i should order her to do that more often

I've had issues with the gf not liking poker but not the same since she didn't care about other people going broke. I told her that with a % of my winnings over a grand or around there I would buy her something and that was the end of it. Of course I never really cash big or else I wouldn't be making that deal :P I'm sure she wouldn't be so concerned about you taking other peoples money if part of it was to buy her a new purse.

 

the funny thing about it is that i dont see what we are doing anything for anyone,
a docter got to cure poeple,
a farmer provides people with vegatables and wine,
some dudes clean other peoples houses for money

We do the same things for people that actors, singers and other entertainers do, we help to provide entertainment. Without pro poker players there would be no top competititon for amateurs to test their "mettle" against and thus they'd get no entertainment value from poker. If playing poker is "immoral" because our job doesn't appear to help anyone else then so are the jobs of actor, pro baseball/football/basketball/etc player, professional singer, professional artist, professional ballet dancer, etc,etc, etc.