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spot in Double Deuce...what is your play?

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  1. soccerfreakjj10 soccerfreakjj10 is offline

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    Dec 7th, 2008 (12/7/2008 7:40pm)

    no reads... new table. Seems like there are several different ways to play this hand, what is your move?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #9378174781: The $100K Double Deuce (69414641), Table 61 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:27:17 ET - 2008/12/07
    Seat 1: BFraser1 (27,501)
    Seat 2: footwork (32,233)
    Seat 3: blackeyes131 (6,879)
    Seat 4: Cottonwool Cat (17,794)
    Seat 5: Taz915 (21,179)
    Seat 6: gBallz4aLL (22,362)
    Seat 7: soccerfreakjj10 (52,605)
    Seat 8: tbone9966 (17,075)
    Seat 9: thealbumleaf (21,176)
    BFraser1 antes 125
    footwork antes 125
    blackeyes131 antes 125
    Cottonwool Cat antes 125
    Taz915 antes 125
    gBallz4aLL antes 125
    soccerfreakjj10 antes 125
    tbone9966 antes 125
    thealbumleaf antes 125
    soccerfreakjj10 posts the small blind of 500
    tbone9966 posts the big blind of 1,000
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to soccerfreakjj10 [Kc Js]
    thealbumleaf folds
    BFraser1 folds
    footwork folds
    blackeyes131 folds
    thealbumleaf: congrats all
    Cottonwool Cat folds
    Taz915 folds
    gBallz4aLL raises to 2,500
    soccerfreakjj10 has 15 seconds left to act
    soccerfreakjj10 calls 2,000
    Taz915: and u
    tbone9966 has 15 seconds left to act
    tbone9966 calls 1,500
    *** FLOP *** [2c 6c 7c]
    soccerfreakjj10...
  2. 88XIN88 88XIN88 is offline

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    Dec 7th, 2008 (12/7/2008 8:19pm) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    Preflop play?

    Considering most players on FTP are pretty loose i'm likely to 3-bet here to 7000 and fold to a shove. If he calls.... then...

    Postflop Play?

    I'd check and maybe consider C/R'ing him depending on what types of ranges i've seen him play earlier. I wouldn't be to worried about the BB here because hes calling ATC due to odds. If you check and they both check behind you then re-evaluate your play depending on the turn card.
     
  3. MuiMuiBueno MuiMuiBueno is offline

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    Dec 7th, 2008 (12/7/2008 8:23pm) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    3bet pre/call as he is on the button and only has 22 bbs. that or fold pre. do not flat here
  4. RollaBoi RollaBoi is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 12:07am) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    I would muck it and move on! the call was a WEAK ONE!
  5. sobizzle21 sobizzle21 is offline Scammer

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 12:14am) in reply to RollaBoi

    preflop i would either 3/bet call shove or just fold, dont like flatting here with his stack...as played i would either check/raise all in or just lead out/call shove on the flop
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  6. blackeyes131 blackeyes131 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 9:41am) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    lol I was at that table and saw you stack off to like Ac 4c.. lol I busted soon after getting my stack to 16K then ran my AK into AJ and got rivered by a J.... Never really liked the call with KJo here it's a hard to make decisions on most flops with that hand and with your stack not worth guessing..
  7. rocksolid124 rocksolid124 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 9:43am) in reply to 88XIN88

     
    Originally Posted by 88XIN88 View Post

    Preflop play?

    Considering most players on FTP are pretty loose i'm likely to 3-bet here to 7000 and fold to a shove. If he calls.... then...

    Postflop Play?

    I'd check and maybe consider C/R'ing him depending on what types of ranges i've seen him play earlier. I wouldn't be to worried about the BB here because hes calling ATC due to odds. If you check and they both check behind you then re-evaluate your play depending on the turn card.

    3bet folding with villain's stack is pretty bad no?
  8. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 9:56am) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    Button raise, I don't think you muck this preflop. Yet, if you raise, your getting priced in to call, and I don't want to go broke here, so I don't mind the flat call.

    Great flop, 2 overs, and 2nd nut flush draw here. You have outs almost guaranteed.

    If it was HU, I would just check here, see if you could get a free card. But, with 2 in, I think a nice hefty bet is in order, over an 8k pot right now, I think you can lead here for 4k, try to take it down now, but with a full intention of calling a reraise all in here. Really, your only fearing a set (or if that A clubs is out there, but even if it is, you have 6 outs.
  9. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 10:28am) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    Do not raise to 7k and fold. that is just horrific advice.

    I wouldn't mind getting like 22bbs effective in here so either leading out or c/r is fine.
    I think the hardest decision comes pre. If he's opened a lot when folded to him then I thik 3betting is ok, but never threee bet fold imo. Also how aggro has he been post flop, this might be a determining factor in my decision to flat or not.

    If he's open folded in LP and/or on the button often then i think foldign pre is fine.
  10. xxjondxx xxjondxx is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 10:37am) in reply to soccerfreakjj10

    shove pre
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  11. 88XIN88 88XIN88 is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 12:22pm) in reply to xxjondxx

    My bad i misread villains stack size. I'm definately 3-betting this pre all day and im pretty confident you'll get a fold pre.

    The correct play here is to definately 3-bet PREFLOP to avoid him seeing the flop with some Ac rag.
     
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