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  1. jmm7258 jmm7258 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:02am)

    pokerstars Game #22371588257: Tournament #122494514, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/11/26 0:04:05 ET
    Table '122494514 11' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: dele ace (16477 in chips)
    Seat 2: Bruno GT (16438 in chips)
    Seat 3: JGagMan (20498 in chips)
    Seat 4: rckhound (10863 in chips)
    Seat 5: samiam54 (13176 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hustlernyc (10838 in chips)
    Seat 7: jmm7258 (31311 in chips)
    Seat 8: leilu12 (5528 in chips)
    Seat 9: suckoutfool (16702 in chips)
    dele ace: posts the ante 50
    Bruno GT: posts the ante 50
    JGagMan: posts the ante 50
    rckhound: posts the ante 50
    samiam54: posts the ante 50
    Hustlernyc: posts the ante 50
    jmm7258: posts the ante 50
    leilu12: posts the ante 50
    suckoutfool: posts the ante 50
    Hustlernyc: posts small blind 300
    jmm7258: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jmm7258 [Jh Kh]
    leilu12: folds
    suckoutfool: folds
    dele ace: raises 1200 to 1800
    Bruno GT: folds
    JGagMan: folds
    rckhound: folds
    samiam54: folds
    Hustlernyc: folds
    jmm7258: calls 1200
    *** FLOP *** [Th Js 3d]
    jmm7258: bets 2400
    dele ace: raises 12227 to 14627 and is all-in
    jmm7258: ???

    No info on villian, except for that I looked him up in PokerDB and he has a 1/32 cash rate in tournaments. Would you call here and why?
  2. Shrubbery Shrubbery is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:58am) in reply to jmm7258

    fold pre, and as played, no i do not call
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  3. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 6:31am) in reply to Shrubbery

    Fold pre. As played, I probably call just based on the thinking that lead/folding this flop with his stack size is beyond awful.

    but really, if you want to lead/fold, then don't lead in the first place
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  4. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 7:06am) in reply to jmm7258

    Check/call this flop if you're going to play this hand.
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  5. jmm7258 jmm7258 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:12pm) in reply to jmm7258

    hmm yeah thanks all.. I really thought he was weak with that push, so I called and he flipped over AJ.
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  6. jmm7258 jmm7258 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:15pm) in reply to jmm7258

    I don't get why y'all want to fold KJhh in the bb when some1 3X bb in middle position tho? Is it really that bad seeing a flop?
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  7. Blackout4 Blackout4 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:26pm) in reply to jmm7258

     
    Originally Posted by jmm7258 View Post

    I don't get why y'all want to fold KJhh in the bb when some1 3X bb in middle position tho? Is it really that bad seeing a flop?

    Yes, this is a prime example, you just flatted pre and trapped urself, you have NO IDEA where u are at in the hand by just flatting there - You will find urself getting trapping doing this more often than not.....
     
  8. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 5:43pm) in reply to Blackout4

    Oh, PS, a shove here is not that bad at all. Player dependant obv.
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  9. aconsuma aconsuma is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:49pm) in reply to NeverScaredB

    lead and call.....he may make a move with kq or 98ss or something like 77 thinking you have ak. Also QJ iand KJ are in his range. You have top pair with a good kicker and that is pretty much the flop you want with kj....gl.
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