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Spot vs Agriffrod at the final table with top set in a 4bet pot

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  1. Artie Party Artie Party is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 7:43pm)

    Agriffrod was obviously the most active player with 2 tables left and also at the final table. 1. How many of you raise the flop in this spot? 2. Do we shove half pot on the river for value and does Agriffrod ever have a calling range with worse? 3. What do we do if Agriffrod jams the river?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #23906106038: $25K Super Stack (Early Antes) (184596288), Table 19 - 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:13:46 ET - 2010/09/14
    Seat 1: agriffrod (726,589)
    Seat 3: H0LLERRR (698,314)
    Seat 5: hemmo_huima (187,182)
    Seat 8: swen the winner (607,915)
    agriffrod antes 1,000
    H0LLERRR antes 1,000
    hemmo_huima antes 1,000
    swen the winner antes 1,000
    swen the winner posts the big blind of 10,000
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to H0LLERRR [Ac Ah]
    agriffrod raises to 20,000
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR raises to 51,444
    hemmo_huima folds
    swen the winner folds
    agriffrod has 15 seconds left to act
    agriffrod raises to 122,888
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR has requested TIME
    H0LLERRR calls 71,444
    *** FLOP *** [Js Kc As]
    agriffrod bets 101,101
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR calls 101,101
    *** TURN *** [Js Kc As] [Qs]
    agriffrod has 15 seconds left to act
    agriffrod bets 162,155
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR has requested TIME
    H0LLERRR calls 162,155
    *** RIVER *** [Js Kc As Qs] [6h]
    agriffrod has 15 seconds left to act
    agriffrod has requested TIME
    agriffrod checks
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR has requested TIME
    ???
     
  2. Diggs Diggs is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 7:52pm) in reply to Artie Party

    I think I'm a nit and check it back here
  3. taypaur taypaur is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 7:55pm) in reply to Diggs

    fold turn with this sizing
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  4. Artie Party Artie Party is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 8:33pm) in reply to taypaur

     
    Originally Posted by taypaur View Post

    fold turn with this sizing

    you give him that much credit here just because the worst card in the deck came on the turn?
     
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  5. MarkFSU1 MarkFSU1 is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 8:42pm) in reply to Artie Party

    shove pre or shove flop for sure, why get so fancy with it
  6. shallowcal shallowcal is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 8:44pm) in reply to MarkFSU1

    check back as played.

    i think i either jam pre or 5 bet, but prob jam
  7. agriffrod agriffrod is offline 2010 WSOP #3 FT

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 9:27pm) in reply to shallowcal

    Agree with shove pre, had JJ here...
     
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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 9:32pm) in reply to agriffrod

    as played shove the river.
  9. vats12 vats12 is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 10:37pm) in reply to snowman2k6

    shove pre....def raise flop if u elect to flat like u did preflop.
     
  10. arsenal46 arsenal46 is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2010 (9/15/2010 10:57pm) in reply to vats12

    never fold the turn and prolly check back the river...i dont see much value in doing anything else otr
     
  11. Kiba52 Kiba52 is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 12:03am) in reply to arsenal46

    i'd probly just keep clicking call post flop and check back this river unless you have reason to believe he could think your floating the turn.
  12. Riverhorse Riverhorse is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 12:08am) in reply to agriffrod

     
    Originally Posted by agriffrod View Post

    Agree with shove pre, had JJ here...

    lol..
  13. taypaur taypaur is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 3:51am) in reply to arsenal46

     
    Originally Posted by arsenal46 View Post

    never fold the turn and prolly check back the river...i dont see much value in doing anything else otr


    but he looks so strong. he probably flopped a straight
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  14. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 4:19am) in reply to taypaur

    there's no way he's checking a T on the river...would bet a lot that he has a lower set or i guess maybe some kind of 2pair, but tha'td be unlikely since you have 2 A and there's one on the board. i think he's still betting a T even with teh spades and whatnot, doubt you have spades very often
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  15. Moonlight Graham Moonlight Graham is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 4:33am) in reply to Gags30

    jamming flop
  16. Artie Party Artie Party is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 9:11am) in reply to Moonlight Graham

    *** RIVER *** [Js Kc As Qs] [6h]
    agriffrod has 15 seconds left to act
    agriffrod has requested TIME
    agriffrod checks
    Donnie De Goof (Observer): hi swen
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR has requested TIME
    H0LLERRR bets 311,170, and is all in
    agriffrod folds
    Uncalled bet of 311,170 returned to H0LLERRR
    H0LLERRR mucks
    H0LLERRR wins the pot (786,288)
     
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  17. MattElsarelli MattElsarelli is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 9:53am) in reply to Artie Party

    cib pre
     
  18. taypaur taypaur is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 10:14am) in reply to Artie Party

     
    Originally Posted by Artie [externalurl=http://www.pocketfives.com/visit/party-poker

    party[/externalurl];5750683]*** RIVER *** [Js Kc As Qs] [6h]
    agriffrod has 15 seconds left to act
    agriffrod has requested TIME
    agriffrod checks
    Donnie De Goof (Observer): hi swen
    H0LLERRR has 15 seconds left to act
    H0LLERRR has requested TIME
    H0LLERRR bets 311,170, and is all in
    agriffrod folds
    Uncalled bet of 311,170 returned to H0LLERRR
    H0LLERRR mucks
    H0LLERRR wins the pot (786,288)

    looks like u bluffed him off a ten NH
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  19. The Spewtard The Spewtard is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 4:52pm) in reply to taypaur

    i liked everything you did. i dont mind min-reraising the flop tho but flatting is also fine i think
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  20. Arty_the_Cat Arty_the_Cat is offline Scammer and thief

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    Sep 19th, 2010 (9/19/2010 8:25pm) in reply to The Spewtard

    bery bery ggggoooood
     
  21. Gettin Daize Gettin Daize is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2010 (9/19/2010 8:40pm) in reply to Arty_the_Cat

    i bet 42k on the river hes not gonna like folding a set getting 3209430294:1
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