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standard downswing for highstakes mtt players?

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  1. ender555 ender555 is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2008 (7/7/2008 11:31pm)

    What are some of your average downswings, and whats your biggest?
    I'm curious about players playing 100rebuys and 100-1k freezeouts..
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  2. Ship Happens Ship Happens is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2008 (7/7/2008 11:33pm) in reply to ender555

    When I used to put in a ton of volume tourny wise 20-30k swings were standard....i think like 45k was my biggest downswing
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  3. wandigo wandigo is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2008 (7/7/2008 11:46pm) in reply to ender555

    I think my biggest was about 10k over a months period, standard is around 6-7k. But know some others who have had much larger than that.

    fwiw, I don't play the 100r or 1k, but play all the others.
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  4. gutshtallin gutshtallin is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:11am) in reply to ender555

    i have swung about 8k as my worst, but i also dont play every 100 rebuy...and i will satty into the 1ks...that could easily get 10k+ downswings
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  5. ucfchamp ucfchamp is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:14am) in reply to ender555

    I would like to hear more responses, not to hijack, but I had a backer, profited 18K the first month, may 2008, then went on a 5K downswing first week of june, and he said he doesnt want to do it anymore, even though i profited 13K in our business relationship. playing everything but the 100 rebuy and the 1K. I am still pissed off about this. UGH
     
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:15am) in reply to ender555

    Ive had a few 10-15k downswings, dont think any above 20k. I play $50-$300 MTTs mostly including sunday 500s and 1ks and up to 50r, and the occasional 100r
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:20am) in reply to ender555

    im currently at about 10k and dropping, playing a few 100r a week and about 1.5 1ks per week, and its starting to affect my play. how do u go thru a sick downer and stay positive?
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:20am) in reply to ender555

    How do you guys deal with large mtt downswings? I play lower limit mtts and when everything seems to go wrong day after day I seem to lose focus and find it so hard to play a tournament from start to finish without making some stupid plays or throw away chips here and there.
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:31am) in reply to Jeff_

     
    Originally Posted by Jeff_ View Post

    How do you guys deal with large mtt downswings? I play lower limit mtts and when everything seems to go wrong day after day I seem to lose focus and find it so hard to play a tournament from start to finish without making some stupid plays or throw away chips here and there.

    easiest way is to deal with an MTT downswing is to snap off a big tourney imo
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  10. gutshtallin gutshtallin is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:39am) in reply to threeven

     
    Originally Posted by threeven View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jeff_ View Post

    How do you guys deal with large mtt downswings? I play lower limit mtts and when everything seems to go wrong day after day I seem to lose focus and find it so hard to play a tournament from start to finish without making some stupid plays or throw away chips here and there.

    easiest way is to deal with an MTT downswing is to snap off a big tourney imo

    Money starts to lose its value...it starts just becoming chips....if you have confidence in ur game--you know its just a matter of time to hit the upswing..Losing and winning money starts to lose the extreme emotions that occur when you first start playing
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:51am) in reply to gutshtallin

    normal downswings prolly 700-800$, biggest was in may, had a 2k downswing.
     
  12. gutshtallin gutshtallin is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:52am) in reply to SN8WMAN

     
    Originally Posted by SN8WMAN View Post

    normal downswings prolly 700-800$, biggest was in may, had a 2k downswing.

    LOL..wp sir..wp
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  13. SN8WMAN SN8WMAN is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:53am) in reply to gutshtallin

    ?
     
  14. pokerjamers pokerjamers is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:54am) in reply to ender555

    i hate you all.. like 40k
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  15. flushdraw09 flushdraw09 is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:57am) in reply to Jeff_

    play cash, or omaha
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 1:17am) in reply to SN8WMAN

    Ur a complete sicko if 2k is ur biggest downswing ever :)
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 1:23am) in reply to ucfchamp

     
    Originally Posted by ucfchamp View Post

    I would like to hear more responses, not to hijack, but I had a backer, profited 18K the first month, may 2008, then went on a 5K downswing first week of june, and he said he doesnt want to do it anymore, even though i profited 13K in our business relationship. playing everything but the 100 rebuy and the 1K. I am still pissed off about this. UGH

    seems kinda weird.. was he rolled well enough for the backing? maybe it was his first one and didn't know what the swings were like. i have a backer as well and it doesn't seem to phase him when i get to maybe -7k and he has several other horses as well.
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  18. Shrubbery Shrubbery is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 1:55am) in reply to wandigo

    currently 0-46 tournaments in cashing... dont want to know how much im down but assuming $75 abi so u do the math
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  19. I_Blade_U I_Blade_U is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 1:59am) in reply to Shrubbery

    prob 2k-5k.... biggest swing was for every cent i own
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 2:14am) in reply to flushdraw09

    15-20k but prolly about to get a lot worse because I have a bunch of -ev makeup coming my way.
     
  21. ucfchamp ucfchamp is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 11:51am) in reply to wandigo

    first time he 's backed
    and it seemed he couldnt handle it, better off, he put me on tilt by asking me every day how we did.
     
  22. tcstunna tcstunna is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:18pm) in reply to ucfchamp

    I dont play much these days but when i did my biggest down swong was 10k in about a month playing only a few 100r's and no 1k's, but everything else
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  23. Zpaceman Zpaceman is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:29pm) in reply to ender555

    "Standard downswings" tend to be 20-50 average buy-ins, which can be quite large if ur playing 100Rs. My biggest downswing was 115 abi = $28k which occured over a 3 month span / 250 mtts and obv happened not long after i won the 100R twice in one day. it was mostly 100R negative variance plus probably my game wasn't as good then as it is now and the luck of winning had given me too much confidence.

    I've since adopted much more conservative BR management and improved my game. Recent downswings seem to be less brutal, but most likely because i don't often play 100Rs anymore.
     
  24. tmleafs1967 tmleafs1967 is offline

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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 12:59pm) in reply to ender555

    Zigmund on Fulltilt said he lost 5M cash games in the last 11 weeks........ pretty sick....
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    Jul 8th, 2008 (7/8/2008 1:03pm) in reply to tmleafs1967

    where does he get his money from he allways seems to be loseing
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