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Standard play from winning player?

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  1. stlboy05 stlboy05 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 9:21pm)

    Hand #1618748852 begins at 2009/04/26
    DA MAD HATTER posts the ante of 200
    PXXL posts the ante of 200
    ALHAL posts the ante of 200
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ posts the ante of 200
    PTW420 posts the ante of 200
    PAHERBKA posts the ante of 200
    MIT ROLYAT posts the ante of 200
    SACTRAFFIC posts the ante of 200
    Dealing down cards
    Dealt to TRIXXR4KIDZZ [8h 6h]
    PTW420 posts the small blind of 1,000
    PAHERBKA posts the big blind of 2,000
    MIT ROLYAT folds.
    SACTRAFFIC folds.
    DA MAD HATTER folds.
    PXXL folds.
    ALHAL folds.
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ raises to 4,399.
    PTW420 calls 3,399.
    PAHERBKA folds.
    Dealing Flop [3h Kd Kh]
    PTW420 checks.
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ bets 8,000.
    PTW420 raises to 17,664, and is all-in.
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ calls 9,664.
    Dealing Turn [5d]
    Dealing River [Td]
    PTW420 shows [Ts Qh]
    PTW420 has Two Pair, Kings and Tens
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ shows [8h 6h]
    TRIXXR4KIDZZ has One Pair, Kings
    PTW420 wins 47,726

    Up until this point I was playing a TAG style and wasn't opening alot of pots.When he check shoves he's giving me almost 4:1 on a call. What could he possibly be ahead of to make that play? Read on villian was that he was playing pretty tight. At first I think he's just a bad player but when I look him up-totally different story he's in top 5% rated players on UB. Am I missing something here-besides the fact he might think I'm raising ATC in this spot?
     
  2. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 10:52pm) in reply to stlboy05

    Even assuming he has napkins, he would have you get you to fold a little more than 1/3 of the time in order to make this play. If he felt you would fold that often, his play is sound.
  3. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 11:39pm) in reply to stlboy05

    many 'profitable players' do not deserve to be. nobody should be ever betting and folding the flop with 5bbs behind, so its almost as if he's raising for value with Q high. really the only thing he might get to fold would be complete air like 8 high offsuit lol. that being said, if you have to bet and call off with an 8 high flush draw, then you should open fold pre flop
  4. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 11:41pm) in reply to downbylaw11

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

    many 'profitable players' do not deserve to be.

    lol
     
  5. sirswish6 sirswish6 is offline i mean super business

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 11:43pm) in reply to funnygut

     
    Originally Posted by funnygut View Post

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

    many 'profitable players' do not deserve to be.

    lol

    i hate everyone
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  6. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 11:48pm) in reply to sirswish6

     
    Originally Posted by sirswish6 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by funnygut View Post

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

    many 'profitable players' do not deserve to be.

    lol

    i hate everyone

    a case in point
     
  7. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2009 (4/26/2009 11:49pm) in reply to funnygut

    He flatted 10bb with QTo....if he's a winning player he musta shipped something big and is on his way down...look again in a year.
  8. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Apr 27th, 2009 (4/27/2009 12:02am) in reply to bef99hwk

    i mean, it is UB. you dont exactly have to be westmenlo to beat tourneys on that site. at least im under that impression. i dont actually play there

    when i check a players stats, its usually after ive seen them do something pretty sketchy. if theyve made money, i look to make sure they didnt make it all in the sunday 200k or some gong show micro rebuy, then i check his itm and if he busts out early a high percentage of the time. some dudes just gamble like crazy, finish itm 6% of the time and go deep every time lol
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