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standard shove here with AK?

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  1. hunter124 hunter124 is offline

    Gallatin, TN
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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 10:41am)

    Villian was moved to the table after rebuy period.No history and he/she has opened a few pots nothing fancy.
    $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/11/18 11:28:25 ET
    Table '120443093 109' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Porvu_vseh (47015 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 2: turkishpok38 (5852 in chips)
    Seat 3: Tinyhoo (13625 in chips)
    Seat 4: sonmom07 (10970 in chips)
    Seat 5: gabril2002 (16013 in chips)
    Seat 7: I'm MJ (7890 in chips)
    Seat 8: airborne95 (5135 in chips)
    Seat 9: hunter124 (5970 in chips)
    Tinyhoo: posts small blind 100
    sonmom07: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hunter124 [Ah Ks]
    gabril2002: folds
    I'm MJ: raises 400 to 600
    airborne95: folds
    hunter124: raises 5370 to 5970 and is all-in
     
  2. chrisc7 chrisc7 is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 10:55am) in reply to hunter124

    Actually not a fan of this play unless you are shoving w/ur big pocket pairs also since I doubt you are, this 30bb shove basically screams I have AK. Think you are better off raising to 1800-2100 w/intention of calling a push.
  3. Appst08 Appst08 is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 10:59am) in reply to chrisc7

     
    Originally Posted by chrisc7 View Post

    Actually not a fan of this play unless you are shoving w/ur big pocket pairs also since I doubt you are, this 30bb shove basically screams I have AK. Think you are better off raising to 1800-2100 w/intention of calling a push.

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  4. Psimp7 Psimp7 is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 10:59am) in reply to chrisc7

    Raising to 1800-2000 I think is much better. You are shipping 30bbs here, something you probably wouldn't do with AA, KK, QQ. By making it 1800-2k you give him the chance to 4 bet worse.
  5. hunter124 hunter124 is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 11:27am) in reply to Psimp7

    So you guys are saying that i am better off hoping an ep 3x raiser will 4 bet jam 22-QQ,AJ,AQ,KQ and not show up with KK-AA than to let them think i always have AK here and call with all pairs knowing they are ahead? definitely appreciate the replies and just want to follow the thought process beheind the reraise.
     
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  6. OnTheRail OnTheRail is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2008 (11/18/2008 11:36am) in reply to hunter124

    By raising to 1800-2k you make your hand pretty strong, and disguise it to the same way you would play TT+

    Also, someone behind you can possibly fold a hand like 99/TT/JJ because your RR of an EP open looks soo much stronger than a shove, which screams AK/AQ, and therefore, 99/TT/JJ might call looking to flip. Regardless, you will go allin with the hand if you need to after you put a 1/3 of your stack in. Ultimately, we are just trying to give the illusion our hand is better than what we hold
     
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