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I was thinking about the hand and just wanted your guy's thoughts. Thanks.
pokerstars Game #27028661465: Tournament #153493010, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (2500/5000) - 2009/04/12 22:01:38 ET
Table '153493010 155' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: crf88 (125690 in chips)
Seat 3: cheezees (165774 in chips)
Seat 4: Sedf54 (103706 in chips)
Seat 5: doubledave22 (184082 in chips)
Seat 6: IceyBSimpson (187763 in chips)
Seat 7: haswellcrew (195486 in chips)
Seat 8: hg1689 (177574 in chips)
Seat 9: BrokenTPot (54426 in chips)
crf88: posts the ante 500
cheezees: posts the ante 500
Sedf54: posts the ante 500
doubledave22: posts the ante 500
IceyBSimpson: posts the ante 500
haswellcrew: posts the ante 500
hg1689: posts the ante 500
BrokenTPot: posts the ante 500
crf88: posts small blind 2500
cheezees: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BrokenTPot [Jc Ah]
Sedf54: folds
doubledave22: raises 7750 to 12750
IceyBSimpson: folds
haswellcrew: calls 12750
hg1689: folds
BrokenTPot: raises 41176 to 53926 and is all-in
crf88: folds
cheezees: folds
doubledave22: raises 129656 to 183582 and is all-in
haswellcrew: folds
Uncalled bet (129656) returned to doubledave22
*** FLOP *** [Td 4c Qc]
*** TURN *** [Td 4c Qc] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [Td 4c Qc 2s] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
doubledave22: shows [Kd Qs] (a pair of Queens)
BrokenTPot: shows [Jc Ah] (high card Ace) -
if you won the hand, you wouldnt be posting
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if you can't understand this then i am perplexed
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He's getting close to 2 to 1, and it's a nice spot for you to squeeze so he probably has your range kind of loose. I'd say yes it's standard.
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U have 12bb over an open and a big ace...not much better comin imo.
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You're range is not very snug and hes getting a good price to iso...I'm shoving your hand though for sure.
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Most ppl don't fold to <15bb shoves anymore unless it's really complete junk...as long as the dude doesn't have huge hand behind, which he shouldn't 99% of the time, he's golden.
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eh i was calling even if there wasnt that flatter between us. Given that he was there it was a super std reshove iso for me. Ur shove was std, mine was std, hope u understand. ul wp gg
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^^^^
Originally Posted by bef99hwk
Most ppl don't fold to <15bb shoves anymore unless it's really complete junk...as long as the dude doesn't have huge hand behind, which he shouldn't 99% of the time, he's golden.
and with your stack size, he's calling. another post probably said it best, 18bb, dd considers folding even though he puts you on squeeze -
you lost a 60/40, why post this?
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are you for real?
dave is getting basically 2:1 and has KQ, what do you expect, him to fold?
your AJ is clearly a jam, and his KQ is clearly an iso...
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I just think people make themselves feel better when other players of the COMMUNITY ask questions, its like a mediocre looking girl surrounding themselves with fat chicks just so they feel better....even when everything is standard on that note, you probably dont post this if you win imo
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r u for real bein a dick when ur wrong urself? the dude wasnt callin out dd or anything, just asking for peoples thoughts on the hand. why dont u relax u monkey faggot. u still pissed u cant even get payed off when u have aces full over aces full?
Originally Posted by Gags30
are you for real?
dave is getting basically 2:1 and has KQ, what do you expect, him to fold?
your AJ is clearly a jam, and his KQ is clearly an iso...
aj is a fold imo. better off finding a good spot to open jam ur stack. u have no fe and a raise +flat in front. kind of a meh spot. kq is a pretty std iso by dd. -
lolololol making fun of gags is one of my favorite hobbies but im sorry to say sir you are horribly wrong on like all accounts of this post. I could go into detail but ill try to keep it simple as possible.
Originally Posted by Grip
r u for real bein a dick when ur wrong urself? the dude wasnt callin out dd or anything, just asking for peoples thoughts on the hand. why dont u relax u monkey faggot. u still pissed u cant even get payed off when u have aces full over aces full?Originally Posted by Gags30
are you for real?
dave is getting basically 2:1 and has KQ, what do you expect, him to fold?
your AJ is clearly a jam, and his KQ is clearly an iso...
aj is a fold imo. better off finding a good spot to open jam ur stack. u have no fe and a raise +flat in front. kind of a meh spot. kq is a pretty std iso by dd.
a) aj is clearly a shove here if uve been watching the table even for 5 minutes.
b) gags isnt a monkey faggot, a monkey maybe... a faggot not rly but ive called him that. but a monkey faggot... def not.
c) that hand vs moorman was played badly by moorman not gags
goodnight plz let this thread die -
This entire hand is 100% standard.
And grip, a) lol @ your advice, and b) why the hell are your panties in a bunch in the first place? Simma down, champ. -
with dave's stack, he should opening kq from any position. Someone flats, and you have aj. You have to shove this because 1. you're short and 2. you're ahead of doubledave's opening range. 3. you're getting good price to squeeze because of the extra money. 4. it doesn't matter if you have no f/e if you're that far ahead of his opening range.
For dave, he's not fold kq to your stack, the iso shove was standard because he's getting a good price to do so with a good hand, as long as he's pretty sure the flatter is inducing a squeeze here.
atter.
If anyone made a mistake in the hand it's probably the flatter. -
what makes this retarded is that brokentpot laughed at doubledave in the chat got getting KQ in here (he neglected to add that to the op)
Originally Posted by Grip
r u for real bein a dick when ur wrong urself? the dude wasnt callin out dd or anything, just asking for peoples thoughts on the hand. why dont u relax u monkey faggot. u still pissed u cant even get payed off when u have aces full over aces full?Originally Posted by Gags30
are you for real?
dave is getting basically 2:1 and has KQ, what do you expect, him to fold?
your AJ is clearly a jam, and his KQ is clearly an iso...
aj is a fold imo. better off finding a good spot to open jam ur stack. u have no fe and a raise +flat in front. kind of a meh spot. kq is a pretty std iso by dd.
so yes, I just think it's a case of brokent posting a standard hand to prove he was 'right'. If he really wanted advice on this he would have asked what to do when it went raise, flat in front of him and he had AJ, and not posted the entire hh
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