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Stars 1k-bad laydown?

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  1. Squirrely1 Squirrely1 is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 8:51pm)

    pokerstars Game #15410043770: Tournament #77289155, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/02/19 - 21:48:16 (ET)
    Table '77289155 20' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: darrenelias (3153 in chips)
    Seat 2: SBRounder (3880 in chips)
    Seat 3: TravestyFund (5490 in chips)
    Seat 4: PitBrett (10905 in chips)
    Seat 5: Squirrely1 (6180 in chips)
    Seat 6: ZENFUL (9470 in chips)
    Seat 7: MadAgenda (2936 in chips)
    Seat 8: BigGuyMB4 (4434 in chips)
    Seat 9: tinytim3434 (4295 in chips)
    tinytim3434: posts small blind 100
    darrenelias: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Squirrely1 [Qc Qs]
    SBRounder: folds
    TravestyFund: folds
    PitBrett: folds
    Squirrely1: raises 355 to 555
    ZENFUL: folds
    MadAgenda: folds
    BigGuyMB4: folds
    tinytim3434: raises 1045 to 1600
    darrenelias: raises 1553 to 3153 and is all-in
    Squirrely1: folds
    tinytim3434: calls 1553
    *** FLOP *** [Jd 3h 5h]
    *** TURN *** [Jd 3h 5h] [Tc]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd 3h 5h Tc] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    tinytim3434: shows [9h 9d] (a pair of Nines)
    darrenelias: shows [Ac Kc] (high card Ace)
    tinytim3434 collected 6861 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 6861 | Rake 0
    Board [Jd 3h 5h Tc 6d]
    Seat 1: darrenelias (big blind) showed [Ac Kc] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 2: SBRounder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: TravestyFund folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: PitBrett folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Squirrely1 folded before Flop
    Seat 6: ZENFUL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: MadAgenda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: BigGuyMB4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: tinytim3434 (small blind) showed [9h 9d] and won (6861) with a pair of Nines
     
  2. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 8:52pm) in reply to Squirrely1

    No. I def. fold there.

    Don't show results, btw.
  3. bhanks11 bhanks11 is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 9:02pm) in reply to thefuture021

    after reading darrenelius (sp) thread regarding his KK fold....... ide say QQ is an easy muck.....
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  4. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 9:03pm) in reply to Squirrely1

    Darrenelias' range has got to be most likely KK, AA, and AK (unlikely to have QQ here since you hold 2 queens). And you don't really know if tim's going to be calling or not. Barring any bizarre read on the 2 players saying that they're crazy loose, this is a good fold.
     
  5. Jaybone2315 Jaybone2315 is offline Professional Couch Ruiner

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 9:06pm) in reply to Squirrely1

    I fold easily.
  6. mordan mordan is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 9:15pm) in reply to Jaybone2315

    don't be results oriented, good fold..:p

    didn't look at stacks before answering, high move:p daren's range is reduced IMO due to his stack size....but still think its a fold, idk...... wish i was a pokerstove wizz
     
  7. Raoeoiku Raoeoiku is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 10:03pm) in reply to mordan

    I call. Even if Darren is on KK+ and AK you're 40% vs that range heads up. So if by some chance tim folds here, you're easily getting odds against Darren. On top of that, almost no competent player would be folding QQ (and probably JJ) in Darren's spot, so you're actually not in too bad shape against his range.

    On top of this is the fact that Tim pretty much has to call with anything and everything, and you're still well ahead of his range with QQ. Definitely a profitable calling spot as far as I can see.
     
  8. OneUglyMoFo OneUglyMoFo is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 10:08pm) in reply to Squirrely1

    I dont get you people..how can u say it was the correct fold when he would have won?...
  9. smokrokbyflock smokrokbyflock is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2008 (2/19/2008 10:14pm) in reply to OneUglyMoFo

    because poker is about putting people on a range of hands and deciding whether the cards we hold beat that hand range. What he actually ended up having is immaterial, what matters is the cards he could have and deciding we are getting the odds to beat those cards. if you are still confused let me give u a simple example: I raise with KK and someone shoves all in and he only doess this with AA, one out of every hundred times he gets 72 he will also do this because he thinks its funny. While he will have 72 a very small percentage of the time, he almost always has AA, as a result we fold. If he shows 72 and laughs in the chat box, it was still be a fold because the majority of the time we are beat....get it?
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