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Stars $22 12.5k 10 mins into the tourney, What to do with JJ preflop?

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  1. sct123 sct123 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 6:43pm)

    Only 2nd hand at the table so no reads on anyone. Is this a good spot to find a fold this early on? I feel like his range is TT+ AK+ and maybe AQ trying iso. thoughts?

    pokerstars Game #46762559306: Tournament #321010433, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/07/14 13:19:24 ET
    Table '321010433 74' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: topac_isback (2685 in chips)
    Seat 2: kalima59 (385 in chips)
    Seat 3: Pondoxva (3220 in chips)
    Seat 4: Perfect1232 (2925 in chips)
    Seat 5: madmugabe (2115 in chips)
    Seat 6: mycatplays (3130 in chips)
    Seat 7: S`KCEB tm (4270 in chips)
    Seat 8: El_Magico777 (2925 in chips)
    Seat 9: sct123 (3135 in chips)
    madmugabe: posts small blind 15
    mycatplays: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to sct123 [Jh Js]
    S`KCEB tm: raises 60 to 90
    El_Magico777: folds
    sct123: calls 90
    topac_isback: calls 90
    kalima59: raises 295 to 385 and is all-in
    Pondoxva: folds
    Perfect1232: folds
    madmugabe: folds
    mycatplays: folds
    S`KCEB tm: raises 780 to 1165
    sct123:
    Edited By: sct123 Jul 14th, 2010 at 06:44 PM
  2. crooklyn75 crooklyn75 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 7:17pm) in reply to sct123

    Fold, so early, so much play left for essentially a coin flip.

    he rarely has TT, so it's not much of an edge for you.

    additionally you have the UTG raiser to worry about, and the first flatter.
  3. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 7:21pm) in reply to crooklyn75

    tbh I rejam JJ+ and AK here everytime, your hand is underrepped
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  4. Jverse Jverse is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 7:21pm) in reply to crooklyn75

    easy fold imo... to early, no information and you would have to spend more money on later streets to find out where you are....
  5. DaBears33 DaBears33 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 7:25pm) in reply to Jverse

    I fold here...you have no chips invested, too early to reshove JJ here IMO
  6. sct123 sct123 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 7:42pm) in reply to DaBears33

    I also thought about 3betting the Jacks preflop but since its early and kinda deep I think flatting is more optimal since i can play a udnerepped hand in pos and not turn it into a bluff and have to fold after investing alot
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  7. Jverse Jverse is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 8:09pm) in reply to sct123

     
    Originally Posted by sct123 View Post

    I also thought about 3betting the Jacks preflop but since its early and kinda deep I think flatting is more optimal since i can play a udnerepped hand in pos and not turn it into a bluff and have to fold after investing alot

    So, with 90 chips invested, your going to flat 1070 (roughly 30% of your stack) and villian has 3105 behind and you have 1975 behind now.... Depending on the flop what do you do? A hits then what? Fold? Low cards come, he shoves, then what? He may have an over pair... Either way your playing for your tournament life at 15/30 blind levels... Can you win the tournament now? Fold... everytime in this spot with no information on villian... gg
    Edited By: Jverse Jul 14th, 2010 at 08:12 PM
  8. chiptaker31 chiptaker31 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 8:15pm) in reply to Jverse

     
    Originally Posted by Jverse View Post

    easy fold imo... to early, no information and you would have to spend more money on later streets to find out where you are....


    lol at this. either shove or fold. with unknown player i probably get it in everytime.
  9. Jverse Jverse is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 8:25pm) in reply to chiptaker31

     
    Originally Posted by chiptaker31 View Post

    lol at this. either shove or fold. with unknown player i probably get it in everytime.

    Would be interested to see the rest of the hand....
  10. gjallen1975 gjallen1975 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 8:50pm) in reply to Jverse

    Nobody thinks field size matters?

    $12.5k GTD for a $22 buy-in is a small field at stars. Fold the JJ because you only have about a thousand players to beat.

    In the Daily Forty Grand, u probably have 5,000 or more players to beat, so get em in.

    In a close call, you need something to make the decsion.

    Also, how big is your bankroll? If less than $2,200, you don't belong in that tourney so wait for aces and hope to cash it for $40 bucks because you need it!!!!

    My new pokers friends here at Pocket Fives is going to love my newest perl here...lol. :)))) What do you think liquidsword??????
    Edited By: gjallen1975 Jul 14th, 2010 at 09:07 PM
  11. ACgaming ACgaming is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 9:00pm) in reply to gjallen1975

    All in
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  12. NDIrish13 NDIrish13 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 9:22pm) in reply to ACgaming

    ez fold all day
     
  13. gjallen1975 gjallen1975 is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 6:47am) in reply to gjallen1975

    [QUOTE=gjallen1975;5615022]Nobody thinks field size matters? $12.5k GTD for a $22 buy-in is a small field at stars. Fold the JJ because you only have about a thousand players to beat. In the Daily Forty Grand, u probably have 5,000 or more players to beat, so get em in. In a close call, you need something to make the decsion.

    Was hoping one of you ranked players would comment on my reply. Would you take field size into consideration? In a tourney with a few thousand players, would you play that more agressively than a tourney like this where the guarantee equals 625 players?
    Edited By: gjallen1975 Jul 15th, 2010 at 06:48 AM
  14. aniceboy aniceboy is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 9:18am) in reply to gjallen1975

    "Quick Fold" and move on to the next table

    ooops....PS doesn't have that
     
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