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stars 300, sick spot with AA

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  1. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 10:06pm)

    what do u think of all 3 ranges pre after the utg raiser just calls my 3bet ?

    stuman is not an idiot (altho i think his flat is terrible ) and deee is unknown/no reads

    pokerstars Game #15272290771: Tournament #76753813, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/02/13 - 22:40:06 (ET)
    Table '76753813 39' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: supreamdream (4394 in chips)
    Seat 2: F Bones 23 (3795 in chips)
    Seat 3: AJinOK (2256 in chips)
    Seat 4: G6Dragon (11095 in chips)
    Seat 5: deeshen13 (4105 in chips)
    Seat 6: blur5f6 (1425 in chips)
    Seat 7: ragingquads_ (9850 in chips)
    Seat 8: StuMan123 (7560 in chips)
    Seat 9: sjco22 (3790 in chips)
    AJinOK: posts small blind 75
    G6Dragon: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ragingquads_ [As Ad]
    deeshen13: raises 300 to 450
    blur5f6: folds
    ragingquads_: raises 878 to 1328
    StuMan123: calls 1328
    sjco22: folds
    supreamdream: folds
    F Bones 23: folds
    AJinOK: folds
    G6Dragon: folds
    deeshen13: calls 878
    *** FLOP *** [3s 9c Kd]
    deeshen13: checks
    ragingquads_: checks
    StuMan123: bets 2250
    deeshen13: raises 527 to 2777 and is all-in
    ragingquads_: raises 5745 to 8522 and is all-in
    StuMan123 has timed out
    StuMan123: folds
    StuMan123 is sitting out
    StuMan123 has returned
    *** TURN *** [3s 9c Kd] [Kc]
    *** RIVER *** [3s 9c Kd Kc] [9h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    deeshen13: shows [9d 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
    ragingquads_: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    deeshen13 collected 12013 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 12013 | Rake 0
    Board [3s 9c Kd Kc 9h]
    Seat 1: supreamdream folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: F Bones 23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: AJinOK (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: G6Dragon (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: deeshen13 showed [9d 9s] and won (12013) with four of a kind, Nines
    Seat 6: blur5f6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: ragingquads_ showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
    Seat 8: StuMan123 folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: sjco22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. Shiptothesails Shiptothesails is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 10:29pm) in reply to darkcheck_

    Deshen raises pre under the gun with maybe 88+ and AQ+. Your reraise represenets a tremendous ammount of strength so Stuman can only be calling here with QQ-AA or AK, he may shove over some of these. Deshen calls pre with his mid pairs for set value knowing he has good implied odds (may be weak and just call with AK) and shoves over with AK and QQ+.
    Flop stuman is betting here with AA, KK, and AK, he checks behind with QQ hoping there is some showdown value. Deshen shoves here with AK or 99.
     
  3. charbarj41 charbarj41 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 12:01am) in reply to darkcheck_

    here's my advice, stars sucks so bad and bad players suck out on you every time so i just open shove on any raise with aa or kk
     
  4. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 12:11am) in reply to charbarj41

    charbarj41, meet our friend bfirst

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  5. AnEmergency AnEmergency is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 12:17am) in reply to darkcheck_

    Seems pretty standard to me. Not much you can do differently other than shove instead of raising, and chances are you'd still get called by that guy. But it's gonna be pretty tough for most people to lay down aces on that flop.
  6. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 12:45am) in reply to darkcheck_

    heh if i flat AK 3bets, then 99 prob still calls and i shove, AK calls hopefully 99 would find fold and i still lose huge pot

    still think the guys play with 99 is terrible just flatting pre as well as the flat with AK
     
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  7. dodge_SOAPS dodge_SOAPS is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 4:31am) in reply to darkcheck_

    what makes u think stu had AK? the guy with 99 sucks and got lucky, happens everyday.
  8. brsavage brsavage is offline Spontaneous Benefactor

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 8:40am) in reply to darkcheck_

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    by darkcheck_ on 2/14/2008 00:45 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR> </NOBR></TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD bgColor=#ffffff></TD><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>heh if i flat AK 3bets, then 99 prob still calls and i shove, AK calls hopefully 99 would find fold and i still lose huge pot

    still think the guys play with 99 is terrible just flatting pre as well as the flat with AK </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    He raises with 99, gets called in two spots, is getting 4-1 on his money and if he calls and folds post flop he still has over 40 BBs, this is in no way a bad call...

    Set mining against at least one probable overpair when you still have a viable stack if you miss the flop is what I call implied odds nirvana.
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  9. dodge_SOAPS dodge_SOAPS is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 3:50pm) in reply to brsavage

    Are you missing something? He leaves himself with 2700 after calling preflop, this is 18 bbs, knowing that he is obviously set mining. Terrible play period.
  10. Appst08 Appst08 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 3:56pm) in reply to dodge_SOAPS

    just plain ul man.

    Appst
     
  11. stsitron stsitron is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 4:15pm) in reply to darkcheck_

    With no reads please stack off to them.
     
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