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STARS CHANGE YOUR PAYOUT STRUCTURE *** PETITION***

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  1. hoodini10 hoodini10 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:02pm)

    If you play mtts regularly on stars I dont need to explain what has happened to the payouts recently. Honestly, pokerstars used to listen to their customers on advice regarding tourney structures, etc. Now, it seems as if there has been a shake up in the management and what used to be the benchmark site for their mtts is fading fast. I dont want this to be long-winded but Im sure the entire community will be happy to cosign this petition to restore legitimate payout structures across Pokerstars mtts ASAP. Ideally, we can get something to change before we get deep into WCOOP and all the tourneys we look forward to are destroyed by awful management. Thanks. ****I suggest everyone who "cosigns" emails support@pokerstars.com linking this thread.

    -Joe

    --- Please contact any Pokerstars affiliates that you may know to see this petition---
     
  2. hoodini10 hoodini10 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:04pm) in reply to hoodini10

    Can Adam or any p5s moderator 1) put a sticky on this so the whole community can voice their opinion and 2) contact a pokerstars moderator to see this message
     
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  3. kdunlapmo kdunlapmo is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:04pm) in reply to hoodini10

    cosigned

    Edit: Can we get this post to have a "Poll" in the original message, this will only prove to the pokerstars in numbers that an overwhelming number of people want to have the old pay structure back.
  4. threeven threeven is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:05pm) in reply to hoodini10

    obv cosign, but it seems stars has chosen to simply ignore us on this matter
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  5. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:05pm) in reply to hoodini10

    we should get Bel0w to start one of these.

    Anywho, COSIGN!!!
     
  6. gutbirdxx gutbirdxx is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:07pm) in reply to hoodini10

    I only play lower buy-in MTTs, and not very well for that matter. Nonetheless cosign
  7. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:08pm) in reply to the_snail03

    cosign.

    we should organize a boycott of something.... this needs to change. or else we will be working at burger king next yr.
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  8. bantersaurus bantersaurus is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:15pm) in reply to bbbbb33

    agree
  9. soggyvag2 soggyvag2 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:17pm) in reply to hoodini10

    cosign
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  10. Kenny Rap Kenny Rap is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:22pm) in reply to soggyvag2

    cosign
     
  11. Akat11 Akat11 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:23pm) in reply to Kenny Rap

    stars fix this already. I mean how do you ppl never listen to your highest repeat customers?
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  12. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:28pm) in reply to Akat11

    i suggest everyone who "cosigns" emails support@pokerstars.com linking this thread.
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  13. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:31pm) in reply to bbbbb33

     
    Originally Posted by bbbbb33 View Post

    i suggest everyone who "cosigns" emails support@pokerstars.com linking this thread.

    yeah, normally I just cosign but I think everyone who agrees should also email stars. This shit has gotten ridiculous.
     
  14. 99NvrLosez 99NvrLosez is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:31pm) in reply to hoodini10

    cosign pleaseeeee change it
  15. ths115 ths115 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:32pm) in reply to hoodini10

    COSIGN THE PISSSSS OUT OF THIS. Reward people who FT not people who min cash.
     
  16. Blackout4 Blackout4 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:32pm) in reply to hoodini10

    Cosign - It sucks that a business like stars will not listen to their paying customers, without us they are nothing -
     
  17. Donkey Kong Donkey Kong is offline it's on like me

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:33pm) in reply to hoodini10

    Seriously pokerstars change your fucking payouts already. How many of your clients have to tell you that youre ruining online MTTs?
  18. Bozz Bozz is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:35pm) in reply to Donkey Kong

    cosign
  19. thesegoto_11 thesegoto_11 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:36pm) in reply to Bozz

    LOL stars CMON DON'T BE SILLY cosigned
     
  20. OlDirtyDawson OlDirtyDawson is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:38pm) in reply to hoodini10

    I'd be hard pressed to believe as long as the American economy is the way it is, that things are gonna change.

    I cosign, it would be wonderful to have 1st pay 25% instead of 16%, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

    Best of luck guys in getting it fixed. Bring back Lee Jones.
  21. tcstunna tcstunna is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:41pm) in reply to ths115

    stars mgmt is a bunch of braindead idiots- it shocks me that the worlds largest online poker site cares so little about what its players want.

    there are many things that they have done in the past that i thought were stupid, but canceling the dailys/nightlys yesterday blew my mind. It just shows how bad their decision process is.

    their thought process (or lack there of) has also led to the demolition of their payout structure. bring lee jones back or put ajk, sctrojans, or someone that knows what they are doing in charge. it amazes me how little stars understands online poker

    obv cosign
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  22. webb10king1 webb10king1 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:45pm) in reply to hoodini10

    COSIGN...f minicashes
  23. moe86 moe86 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:47pm) in reply to hoodini10

    agreee
     
  24. hoodini10 hoodini10 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:48pm) in reply to OlDirtyDawson

     
    Originally Posted by OlDirtyDawson View Post

    I'd be hard pressed to believe as long as the American economy is the way it is, that things are gonna change.

    pokerstars is part of the global economy and is an international business. The US economy being in a "recession" has nothing to do with how Pokerstars tournaments are paid out. This is an irrelevant rebuttal.
     
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  25. ths115 ths115 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 1:48pm) in reply to OlDirtyDawson

    Did you really just bring the American economy into this discussion? OH MAN LOL
     
  26. bfineman bfineman is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:01pm) in reply to ths115

    it's obviously in a winning player's best interest for the pay structure to be top heavy, but those of you calling out stars for poor management need to look at things from their perspective. who do you think pays the most rake from tournaments each month? the slew of casual players who might only play ~10 hours a week, or the handful of regulars who play every day? if you think it's the regs, you're missing the point entirely.

    stars is a business, and their first objective is to make money. they're gonna get MTT pros' rake regardless, so it makes perfect sense for them to appeal to the casual players. i'm not saying i'd rather have flat pay structures, but it's a losing fight to put up petitions that they simply won't listen to until they start seeing a decrease in revenue from tournaments... and the fields are bigger than ever right now.

    MTT regs that have a problem with this issue would be better off redirecting their energy towards things they have a more realistic shot of changing. the three hour gap in tilt's sunday tourney schedule comes to mind immediately...
     
  27. xxACES UPxx xxACES UPxx is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:13pm) in reply to hoodini10

    COSIGN
  28. ronkend ronkend is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:21pm) in reply to xxACES UPxx

    I dare you to post in this thread scotty, and justify these payouts.

    cosign obv.
  29. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:25pm) in reply to ronkend

    srsly guys send the email. just link this thread. thx.
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  30. dare92 dare92 is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2008 (9/6/2008 2:39pm) in reply to hoodini10

    I haven't played on Full Tilt in 2 years. But after they changed the payouts I play there way more than Pstars now.

    These payouts are a joke.

    COSIGN
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