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Stars not showing hands on cash tables when all-in?

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  1. Rev.K Rev.K is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:46pm)

    I'm playing $25NL and the cards aren't being flipped on all-ins anymore.

    Did stars change this?

    Sorry if this has already been asked/answered a million times.
  2. threeven threeven is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:47pm) in reply to Rev.K

    stars has always done this
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  3. Donnie2005.2 Donnie2005.2 is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:50pm) in reply to threeven

    Thats quite possibly the most tilting thing in online poker ever
     
  4. Decatur217 Decatur217 is offline OTs Iron Man

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:50pm) in reply to Donnie2005.2

    not required to at casinos....so I guess thats how it should be
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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:53pm) in reply to Decatur217

    go look under options..theres a tab that says..show hole cards when all in (cash games)...if the other doesnt have this checked..it wont show.
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  6. thedylan thedylan is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:53pm) in reply to Rev.K

    i've seen them flip cards during all ins so idk what the deal is
     
  7. Rev.K Rev.K is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:54pm) in reply to Decatur217

    They were doing this though, for a brief time anyway. I'm certain of it.

    They changed back I guess.

    Oh sweet. Guy buys in for $5. I raise to $1 on the button with A-J, he shoves, I call.

    A-2 > A-J
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  8. Rev.K Rev.K is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2009 (9/23/2009 10:55pm) in reply to wildman75

     
    Originally Posted by wildman75 View Post

    go look under options..theres a tab that says..show hole cards when all in (cash games)...if the other doesnt have this checked..it wont show.

    Ah! I see. Thanks!
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  9. lunarphase lunarphase is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 3:14am) in reply to Rev.K

    stars sux don't get why people play cash games there with no rakeback
     
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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 3:48am) in reply to Rev.K

    I was shocked when I got all in and saw the opponents hand pre when I finally turned off my cash restrictions like 2 weeks ago and played a little. Then I went busto on stars. Shoulda kept those cash restrictions on lol...
  11. J_BOYZZ J_BOYZZ is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 9:45am) in reply to lunarphase

     
    Originally Posted by lunarphase View Post

    stars sux don't get why people play cash games there with no <a href='http://rakeback.pocketfives.com' target='blank'>rakeback</a>

    not true
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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 10:13am) in reply to J_BOYZZ

     
    Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ View Post

    not true

    How is it not true?
  13. J_BOYZZ J_BOYZZ is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 10:34am) in reply to TwystedPair

    there vip system can be the best rakeback on the net....I currently getting about 50% and will soon be more, of course u have to ply alot
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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 11:17am) in reply to Rev.K

     
    Originally Posted by Rev.K View Post

    Oh sweet. Guy buys in for $5. I raise to $1 on the button with A-J, he shoves, I call.

    A-2 > A-J

    bad beat forum located elsewhere
  15. Adam Adam is offline Emperor

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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 11:29am) in reply to J_BOYZZ

     
    Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ View Post

    there vip system can be the best <a href='http://www.pocketfives.com/visit/rakeback/' target='blank'>rakeback</a> on the net....I currently getting about 50% and will soon be more, of course u have to ply alot

    The highest equivalent cash back you can get on stars is about 40%, which is what you get at the SuperNova Elite level--which requires you to pay about $200,000 in rake per year. It's exactly 40% for tournament/SNG players but can vary around that number for cash players. At SuperNova, tournament players are getting 28% equivalent, and it goes down from there.

    This is not to say it's not a great VIP program--their program revolutionized the online poker universe in a lot of ways, and many thousands of players find it highly rewarding. But 50% back is a bit of an exaggeration.

    For more information on the VIP program, we've got a nice review here:
    <a href="http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-stars-vip-program" >
    http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-stars-vip-program</a>

    There are reviews of some other VIP programs that you can compare it to as well.
     
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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 11:30am) in reply to J_BOYZZ

     
    Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ View Post

    there vip system can be the best <a href='http://rakeback.pocketfives.com' target='blank'>rakeback</A> on the net....I currently getting about 50% and will soon be more, of course u have to ply alot

    Can you elaborate on how you get 50% please? I am 130 vpps from supernova (brag) so am not sure of best way to convert fpps.

    Thanks
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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 11:34am) in reply to Adam

     
    Originally Posted by Adam View Post

    The highest equivalent cash back you can get on stars is about 40%, which is what you get at the SuperNova Elite level--which requires you to pay about $200,000 in rake per year. It's exactly 40% for tournament/SNG players but can vary around that number for cash players. At SuperNova, tournament players are getting 28% equivalent, and it goes down from there.

    This is not to say it's not a great VIP program--their program revolutionized the online poker universe in a lot of ways, and many thousands of players find it highly rewarding. But 50% back is a bit of an exaggeration.

    For more information on the VIP program, we've got a nice review here:
    <a href="http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-stars-vip-program">
    http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-stars-vip-program</a>

    There are reviews of some other VIP programs that you can compare it to as well.

    My friend will be raked approx 400k by the end of the year, and will be getting approx 240k in rakeback, so that will far exceed 50%

    He puts in super insane crazy volume though
  18. J_BOYZZ J_BOYZZ is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2009 (9/24/2009 1:14pm) in reply to 3kingme3

    Adam your info is off, ppl playing 1/2 limit fullring as an elite are almsot getting 100% rakeback. It depends on ur game but on avg its more than 40% for elite.

    <table align="center" border="0" cellspacing="10"><tbody><tr><td align="center">SN, 600k+ VPP</td><td align="center">~41%</td></tr><tr><td align="center">SN, 800k+ VPP</td><td align="center">~43%</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Supernova Elite</td><td align="center">~57%</td></tr></tbody></table>
    http://www.fpppro.com/pokerstars-rakeback.php

    So 50% is not an exageration at all, maybe for a couple ppl but for most elites, 50% is under shooting it
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