i know there is probably a post on this but does anyone else really think the new payout structures are terrible on pokerstars. wtf 20k for first in the nightly 150 now'? this tournament sucks now

the new payout structures are absolutely terrible they pay like 19% for first and pay out 18-20% of field....it blows

They may have done it to give people a little more incentive to play tourneys with 5k people.

I know its only a $5 donkament but geeeeeze what a joke! 5 hours of play, go out 21st out of 1600, and i get $19? WTF?

pokerstars Tournament #85793967, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $5.00/$0.50
1608 players
Total Prize Pool: $8040.00
Tournament started - 2008/04/24 - 21:00:00 (ET)

Dear MadProfesor,

You finished the tournament in 21st place.
A $24.13 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

lil tip, dont register if u dont like the payout structure.

you would be singing a different tune if you won or at least reached HU. maybe MTT is not for you?

It's awful - my pet peeve with stars for some time now. Winners get far less than they used to but they pay more out to 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc than they used to. And of course they are paying out to more of the field now.

If you check the Stars 7.00pm $100 which usually has 4-500 entries and the Tilt 7.00pm $69 which generally has the same amount of runners, the actual difference in 1st prize money now is very small despite the roughly 30% higher cost of entry into the Stars tourney.

I guess Stars decided to redistribute more money to lower places to ensure fewer of their accounts bust out.

Clearly these large field tournaments are not for you. If you are playing tournaments with 1,000 + you have to get used to these results. Talk to the people who play 3 rebuys...sometimes grind for 7+ hours only to make a few dollars.

If you have the bankroll I would go for some $20 180's. You don't have to navigate such a large field and if you happen to go out 10-18th you only put in a couple hours instead of 5+

All tourneys below $10 should be winner take all

The payouts r such a joke now. stars plz change the payouts back!!!!!!

CW

You played in a mtt with a 20% payout structure. If you don't like that structure don't play in $5 and less mtts that have it. stars has a 10% or 15% payout structure for all mtts $8 and up and a few lower buyins. Look at the lobby and see if it says 20% payout before you play and start bitchin.

Edit: And yes the 20% payout structure sucks for every single person that cashes.

You can make an argument on this a couple of ways. On the one hand, you have the 20% payout schedule. I agree that this is largely for the donks that have a chance to luckbox and cash, thus, returning to try again and again. This keeps the "donks" happy. On the other side, you have people that know how to play and know how to play well that would much rather play in a structure that only pays out 10%.

Your problem is not a question of how many people get paid out, but how much. What is common is the final 2 tables (usually 18th and up) make the majority of the money. The FT especially, take a large chunk out and end up with a relatively decent payout.

By comparison, I finished 65th in a 2000+ player $1.10 tourney and only got $3.84, but finished 4th in another and got paid out $105.78. A 61 player difference and a $102.00 difference.

Your situation can be looked at 2 ways. 1. You only got paid out $24 for your time. 2. You got a 339% ROI from this tourney.

The only suggestion I have is....if you don't like the structure, don't play in it...if you want to get paid out better, finish higher....and if you want to have a chance to get paid out better for your time, start playing multi-table SNG's or higher limit games.