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  1. WarGawd WarGawd is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:04pm)

    WTF???

    @ 6k FPP they're charging $96 for these....PayPal has the same thing for a measly $5

    https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ityKey-outside

    Why the big difference?
  2. J_BOYZZ J_BOYZZ is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:04pm) in reply to WarGawd

    who cares, its well worth it
  3. JMcKW JMcKW is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:18pm) in reply to WarGawd

    nah I agree, seems ridiculously overpriced
  4. WarGawd WarGawd is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:30pm) in reply to J_BOYZZ

     
    Originally Posted by J_BOYZZ View Post

    who cares, its well worth it

    Don't disagree it's prob well worth it for the intended target market (HS ballers with big rolls). Just seems like a huge gouge for Mid & Low stakes people who might have interest &/or good reason to want that security.

    You'd think stars would want to be seen as promoting security more universally...
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  5. ntanygd760 ntanygd760 is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:32pm) in reply to WarGawd

    i think they will give you the mouse pin pad thing without the rsa token if you email them
     
  6. mastaofkings mastaofkings is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:34pm) in reply to WarGawd

    I dont understand why its not free? At least for people with a roll over 100 bucks? I mean, pokerstars is practically a bank. Banks have awesome security. They hold money and who knows, probably invest it which I'm not against but just like the bank, there should be something in place to make our accounts super secure.
  7. dealace1 dealace1 is offline @ UFC 115 via UB

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 1:35pm) in reply to mastaofkings

    Actually this service is fairly expensive to setup if done correctly. I was involved in a setup once in a Bank for instance and they need a seperately secured room for the Authentication Server with two person physical key access. Then they had to pay for an expensive audit prior to getting their private key injected. Security is not cheap. They have to pay for the technology on their side as well.
  8. TC_Clueless TC_Clueless is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 3:03pm) in reply to dealace1

     
    Originally Posted by dealace1 View Post

    Actually this service is fairly expensive to setup if done correctly. I was involved in a setup once in a Bank for instance and they need a seperately secured room for the Authentication Server with two person physical key access. Then they had to pay for an expensive audit prior to getting their private key injected. Security is not cheap. They have to pay for the technology on their side as well.

    This, and the cost of labor in order fulfillment. The DHL guy just dropped mine off this afternoon and it's well worth it imo.
     
  9. chancew chancew is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 9:58pm) in reply to TC_Clueless

    Love this thing......well worth the money
  10. Call Me Jigsaw Call Me Jigsaw is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 10:13pm) in reply to WarGawd

    If you think it's overpriced, then you probably don't need one.
  11. threeven threeven is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 10:16pm) in reply to WarGawd

    I looked and the tokens themselves are rly expensive (even when you buy them in bulk. Talking 1000's at a time) I have no idea how paypal affords to offer them so cheap.
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  12. Skitz0Frenik Skitz0Frenik is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 10:24pm) in reply to WarGawd

    Expensive but well worth it.
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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 8:38am) in reply to Call Me Jigsaw

     
    Originally Posted by Call Me Jigsaw View Post

    If you think it's overpriced, then you probably haven't read enough hacking stories on P5

    FYP
  14. lane1300 lane1300 is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 9:12am) in reply to Skitz0Frenik

    best item in 2009
  15. specterz specterz is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 9:32am) in reply to WarGawd

    How does this work actually? you need it every time you log in?
  16. iatetheredcrayon iatetheredcrayon is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 9:39am) in reply to WarGawd

    There's an official free iPhone app that can do this for you. I haven't bothered to email stars to see if they'd let me do that.
  17. boogey77 boogey77 is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 9:56am) in reply to iatetheredcrayon

    $100 for peace of mind, sold
     
  18. PokerStarsMichaelJ PokerStarsMichaelJ is offline PokerStars Security

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 10:36pm) in reply to WarGawd

    Hello,

    The price for the RSA Security Token in the pokerstars VIP Store is the "cost" price for what it costs PokerStars to provide that individual token (including the cost of the token itself, the license to RSA and shipping & handling). PokerStars does not profit from sales of the RSA Security Token.

    PokerStars has paid all the additional costs (such as the cost of the new server hardware, the cost of the programmers, the cost of the graphic designers, the ongoing cost of support and so on).

    PokerStars makes no profit out of selling these RSA Security Tokens through the PokerStars VIP Store - rather, it is a significant expense for us. We're happy to pay this cost because we think that by giving players the security and safety of the world's leading security token provider, PokerStars and players will benefit in the long run.

    We also expect these tokens will operate for five years. That works out to be a cost of around 23FPPs per week, which we think is fairly reasonable. This is not a device that we expect you to "consume" in the same way as a printer cartridge, but something that represents further value.

    Finally, we recognise that not everyone will wish to pay the 6,000 FPPs to obtain a RSA Security Token, which is why we have also introduced the PokerStars PIN at the same time. This is entirely free, and there is no charge for the PokerStars PIN.
    As always, if you have more specific queries, or wish to discuss this in greater detail, feel free to email us anytime at support@pokerstars.com.

    Sincerely,

    Michael J
    PokerStars Game Security Team
  19. J_BOYZZ J_BOYZZ is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 11:41pm) in reply to PokerStarsMichaelJ

    I think there are ppl who would pay alot more for this
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