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starting to get short in mtt, is it time to make a move?flat and play flop? fold out pre and look for better spot?

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  1. stayhighlowe stayhighlowe is online now

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    Jun 1st, 2009 (6/1/2009 10:17am)

    okerStars Game #28844605929: Tournament #165726085, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (5000/10000) - 2009/05/31 19:35:21 ET
    Table '165726085 2915' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: kungsbjörn (378380 in chips)
    Seat 2: lharrison (156974 in chips)
    Seat 3: Dr.Dude (236392 in chips)
    Seat 4: Don_C0rny (303352 in chips)
    Seat 5: JAANSGOENL (188812 in chips)
    Seat 6: PPeeter (157100 in chips)
    Seat 7: tommyk (214350 in chips)
    Seat 8: MillionerMen (254654 in chips)
    Seat 9: cardwizard74 (160841 in chips)
    kungsbjörn: posts the ante 1000
    lharrison: posts the ante 1000
    Dr.Dude: posts the ante 1000
    Don_C0rny: posts the ante 1000
    JAANSGOENL: posts the ante 1000
    PPeeter: posts the ante 1000
    tommyk: posts the ante 1000
    MillionerMen: posts the ante 1000
    cardwizard74: posts the ante 1000
    lharrison: posts small blind 5000
    Dr.Dude: posts big blind 10000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to lharrison [Kd Jc]
    Don_C0rny: folds
    JAANSGOENL: folds
    PPeeter: raises 10000 to 20000
    tommyk: folds
    MillionerMen: folds
    cardwizard74: calls 20000
    kungsbjörn: folds
    lharrison:
  2. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Jun 1st, 2009 (6/1/2009 1:11pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    Dump this, for a number of reasons: in a raised pot, your hand is, at best, marginal, as you could catch a king or jack-high flop and find yourself dominated by the hands AK/KQ/AJ; you're calling off 15k, when your call doesn't even close the action, for nearly 10% of your stack, in a pot likely to be multi-way, with a hand which plays poorly vs several opponents; you've just taken the blinds and will have 150k, and can surely find a better spot to make a move.
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    Jun 1st, 2009 (6/1/2009 10:43pm) in reply to hushpuckena

    well put. also the caller after the raise makes this an even easier fold
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 2:32am) in reply to hushpuckena

    Fold...your up against at least 1 ace here...your dominated pre, have to look for a better hand right now
     
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 10:51am) in reply to Donnie2005.2

    thanks for the input guys, havent played mtt in awhile and played a few sundays, was trying to post all the interesting spots, but there was only two this being one of them.

    cant find the rest of the hand history but i ended up just folding pre......

    ill see if i can find the other spot that was kinds interesting
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 11:19am) in reply to stayhighlowe

    Not so interesting IMO. This is an easy fold.
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:12pm) in reply to DutchCourage

    obv kj o is a very marginal hand...the only other option i was thinking about was shippin it pre bc we have decent FE and were pretty deep into the money and ppl dont like to call of with shit hands. yeah there a raise and a flat but its a min raise and just a flat. so we can pretty safetly assume the flatter is weak bc the min raise is just to small to slow play anything. making this in my mind the 2nd most interesting spot of my sunday (the 4mtts i played)
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:22pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    i find the hh of the other spot, much more interesting imo, new thread...
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    Jun 5th, 2009 (6/5/2009 2:34pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    You certainly can gamble and squeeze here. 2 options shove or fold, IMO. The min raise pre looks pretty weak but you do not list any reads on anyone so really tough to say if I ship here or not. If its a weak/passive player and the caller is also weak i shove but without reads there is no way to tell you how to play the hand. It certainly is not an auto fold as previously stated. THis is a 10 dollar tourney and I have no idea if it is close to the bubble for cash or FT? Much more information needed. GL
     
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    Jun 5th, 2009 (6/5/2009 8:30pm) in reply to Boandaro

     
    Originally Posted by Boandaro View Post

    You certainly can gamble and squeeze here. 2 options shove or fold, IMO. The min raise pre looks pretty weak but you do not list any reads on anyone so really tough to say if I ship here or not. If its a weak/passive player and the caller is also weak i shove but without reads there is no way to tell you how to play the hand. It certainly is not an auto fold as previously stated. THis is a 10 dollar tourney and I have no idea if it is close to the bubble for cash or FT? Much more information needed. GL

    definately agree, if read suggests player min raising is quite weak its a instant shove for me and pick up blinds plus 4k easy
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